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Ah, here is the longer version for us, our Articles of Faith: http://nazarene.org/ministries/administ ... splay.htmlccgr wrote:I'm down with that. Here's our church's statements of faith: http://www.clcbc.com/index.php/our-chur ... we-believe
(Much wordier than yours!)
So this is your own "Statement of Belief" (borrowing from the thread title) and not tied to any specific denomination? Is this based on your readings of the Scriptures, your communications with God, or a combination of the two?Dirkdigdeep wrote: Therefore i have established my own list of salvific doctrine. I may ADD another to this list in time. but none shall ever be removed. These are tied to the real Jesus and the real Gospel.
1) The deity of Jesus; ... as the Judaeo Christian theology defined deity (John 8: 23-24 + 58) omniscient, omnipotent, omnipresent, eternal and Spirit [John 4: 24] These are qualities that deity [ god] alone possesses, all of which Jesus claimed for himself.
2) Monotheism; There is but one common nature and essence called DEITY [God] and ever has only been one Spirit that has these qualities ; Isaiah 43: 10 , see also Isaiah chapters 43 - 46.
3) Trinity The clearly present fact that is presented in both the old and new Testament the Jews called the "mystery of the plurality of God". In the scriptures: The Father is called God , the Son is called God, the Holy Spirit is called God, and yet they remain and are expressly seen as distinct persons who share that same exact nature and essence called "deity". [Greek: Theos] The verses needed to fully show this are many but short list is: John 8: 13-18 Jesus is not the same person as the Father. Jesus is not the same person as the Holy Spirit . John 15: 26, 16: 7 & 13, The Father is not the Holy Spirit. John 15: 26, and many more. The proper reading of the doctrine is : One deity ( common nature and essence of that called "God) manifest in three Persons. This is not polytheism, which declared unique and independent deities of varying powers and natures and areas of influence.
4) The virgin birth; This is the very first messianic prophecy found in Gen 3: 15 whereby Adam and Eve and everyone who followed after who would be saved had to receive salvation by faith alone. It is the root of Isaiah 7: 14 and Jer. 31: 22, Matt 1: 18- 20, Luke 1: 35
5) The bodily coming death , resurrection, ascension and return of Jesus. Primarily this doctrine is expounded as salvific in 1 Cor. 15: 1- 28 Deny this at your peril. Acts 1: 9-11
6) Exclusivity of Jesus [ only way of salvation] John 14:6, Acts 4: 12, Hosea 13: 4, Isaiah 43: 11-13
7) Salvation is by faith alone through Grace alone and Not works of ANY KIND. This is a vast topic in the Scriptures primary text are Rom 11: 6, Ephesians 2: 8-9, Gal 5: 1-5, Rom 3: 23-27, 4: 1- 25.
Is that with or without the Apocryphal books?BlockHeadLewie wrote:My doctrine is as simple as Genesis 1:1 - Rev 22:21.
PEACE!
The wind blows as it wills, so does The Holy Spirit. I believe all writings have something to offer if read with God's Will in mind.Sstavix wrote:Is that with or without the Apocryphal books?BlockHeadLewie wrote:My doctrine is as simple as Genesis 1:1 - Rev 22:21.
PEACE!
I believe i made myself adequatly clear . I will state that these doctrines are established historical and orthodox Christians doctrines.Sstavix wrote:So this is your own "Statement of Belief" (borrowing from the thread title) and not tied to any specific denomination? Is this based on your readings of the Scriptures, your communications with God, or a combination of the two?Dirkdigdeep wrote: Therefore i have established my own list of salvific doctrine. I may ADD another to this list in time. but none shall ever be removed. These are tied to the real Jesus and the real Gospel.
1) The deity of Jesus; ... as the Judaeo Christian theology defined deity (John 8: 23-24 + 58) omniscient, omnipotent, omnipresent, eternal and Spirit [John 4: 24] These are qualities that deity [ god] alone possesses, all of which Jesus claimed for himself.
2) Monotheism; There is but one common nature and essence called DEITY [God] and ever has only been one Spirit that has these qualities ; Isaiah 43: 10 , see also Isaiah chapters 43 - 46.
3) Trinity The clearly present fact that is presented in both the old and new Testament the Jews called the "mystery of the plurality of God". In the scriptures: The Father is called God , the Son is called God, the Holy Spirit is called God, and yet they remain and are expressly seen as distinct persons who share that same exact nature and essence called "deity". [Greek: Theos] The verses needed to fully show this are many but short list is: John 8: 13-18 Jesus is not the same person as the Father. Jesus is not the same person as the Holy Spirit . John 15: 26, 16: 7 & 13, The Father is not the Holy Spirit. John 15: 26, and many more. The proper reading of the doctrine is : One deity ( common nature and essence of that called "God) manifest in three Persons. This is not polytheism, which declared unique and independent deities of varying powers and natures and areas of influence.
4) The virgin birth; This is the very first messianic prophecy found in Gen 3: 15 whereby Adam and Eve and everyone who followed after who would be saved had to receive salvation by faith alone. It is the root of Isaiah 7: 14 and Jer. 31: 22, Matt 1: 18- 20, Luke 1: 35
5) The bodily coming death , resurrection, ascension and return of Jesus. Primarily this doctrine is expounded as salvific in 1 Cor. 15: 1- 28 Deny this at your peril. Acts 1: 9-11
6) Exclusivity of Jesus [ only way of salvation] John 14:6, Acts 4: 12, Hosea 13: 4, Isaiah 43: 11-13
7) Salvation is by faith alone through Grace alone and Not works of ANY KIND. This is a vast topic in the Scriptures primary text are Rom 11: 6, Ephesians 2: 8-9, Gal 5: 1-5, Rom 3: 23-27, 4: 1- 25.
Ah, but some Bibles - especially in the Roman Catholic church - includes the Books of the Apocrypha. The Study Bible I purchased as part of my Bible as Literature class in college also included these books (great version of the Bible - it went into the historical time periods that each individual book was written in as well!) So I was just curious to see if your Bible included it, too.BlockHeadLewie wrote: All seriousness aside, and to actually answer your question, no. My doctrine comes from what I hear the wind say. I do what it says. How to hear (and understand) the wind (and which way it blows) is written between Gen 1:1 - Rev 22:21.
If it was "adequately clear," then why did I ask the question? In other words, I didn't understand the answer, so please be more direct. Is this "statement of beliefs" based upon your own interpretation of the Bible, or does it derive from a different source (e.g. divine inspiration delivered to you personally)? I won't get into details about the veracity of the source - this isn't the debates section, after all.Dirkdigdeep wrote:I believe i made myself adequatly clear . I will state that these doctrines are established historical and orthodox Christians doctrines.Sstavix wrote: So this is your own "Statement of Belief" (borrowing from the thread title) and not tied to any specific denomination? Is this based on your readings of the Scriptures, your communications with God, or a combination of the two?
The issues of what constititutes the Cannon is not i within the pervue of this discussion, if you wish the answers to these question find me in paltalk (lifesharer) and politlely ask me there.Sstavix wrote:Ah, but some Bibles - especially in the Roman Catholic church - includes the Books of the Apocrypha. The Study Bible I purchased as part of my Bible as Literature class in college also included these books (great version of the Bible - it went into the historical time periods that each individual book was written in as well!) So I was just curious to see if your Bible included it, too.BlockHeadLewie wrote: All seriousness aside, and to actually answer your question, no. My doctrine comes from what I hear the wind say. I do what it says. How to hear (and understand) the wind (and which way it blows) is written between Gen 1:1 - Rev 22:21.
If it was "adequately clear," then why did I ask the question? In other words, I didn't understand the answer, so please be more direct. Is this "statement of beliefs" based upon your own interpretation of the Bible, or does it derive from a different source (e.g. divine inspiration delivered to you personally)? I won't get into details about the veracity of the source - this isn't the debates section, after all.Dirkdigdeep wrote:I believe i made myself adequatly clear . I will state that these doctrines are established historical and orthodox Christians doctrines.Sstavix wrote: So this is your own "Statement of Belief" (borrowing from the thread title) and not tied to any specific denomination? Is this based on your readings of the Scriptures, your communications with God, or a combination of the two?I just wanted to know where these beliefs came about.
I was being polite. Want to see me be nasty?Dirkdigdeep wrote: The issues of what constititutes the Cannon is not i within the pervue of this discussion, if you wish the answers to these question find me in paltalk (lifesharer) and politlely ask me there.
My question was this - I don't understand. Can you explain in terms I can understand?Dirkdigdeep wrote: My statement WAS adequatly clear, and fully explained in the body of the original text. And you, being NOT the center of my universe, nor the measure of all things, cannot deny that . If you wish to challenge me on my points; use scriptures , if you wish to further discuss this then meet me in Paltalk and I will answer your questions there.
I believe I did sorta answer this part, both in the quote above and below. I try to include connections between my choice of words for this very reason.Sstavix wrote:Ah, but some Bibles - especially in the Roman Catholic church - includes the Books of the Apocrypha. The Study Bible I purchased as part of my Bible as Literature class in college also included these books (great version of the Bible - it went into the historical time periods that each individual book was written in as well!) So I was just curious to see if your Bible included it, too.BlockHeadLewie wrote: All seriousness aside, and to actually answer your question, no. My doctrine comes from what I hear the wind say. I do what it says. How to hear (and understand) the wind (and which way it blows) is written between Gen 1:1 - Rev 22:21.
This would include the Books of the Apocrypha. I didn't include it in the list because I thought it may be taken as implied the way I wrote my statement. I apologize if this wasn't the case.BlockHeadLewie wrote: The wind blows as it wills, so does The Holy Spirit. I believe all writings have something to offer if read with God's Will in mind.
And yes, I have read the Quran, Book of Mormon, Gospel of Mary, Gospel of Jesus and other writings not accepted as "from God" or whatever.
God has instilled within US the ability to communicate, which is a constructive word. "Ridicule" or "denial of possibility" lead to lack of communication, and therefore destructive.
All seriousness aside, and to actually answer your question, no. My doctrine comes from what I hear the wind say. I do what it says. How to hear (and understand) the wind (and which way it blows) is written between Gen 1:1 - Rev 22:21.
Peace!