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So will every game developer from here on out have to apologize for recognizing traditional marriage? As a parent I wouldn't want my kids playing games promoting homosexuality. Until they are old enough to know otherwise we teach our kids that babies come from a man and a woman and that they should be married beforehand...
Nintendo apologizes for not catering to the gay community
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This. This. This. A thousand times this.ArchAngel wrote:Not excluding gay relationships isn't catering to the gay community, and recognizing a gay relationship isn't mutually exclusive from recognizing traditional marriage.
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So what, recognizing "traditional marriage" requires pretending that gay marriage doesn't exist? With all due respect, that sounds very petty.
I think Nintendo is doing the right thing here. I don't think they were trying to intentionally leave gay people out in the cold, but they do have a lot of gay customers, some of which are married or engaged. What's wrong with wanting to be inclusive to these people?
I think Nintendo is doing the right thing here. I don't think they were trying to intentionally leave gay people out in the cold, but they do have a lot of gay customers, some of which are married or engaged. What's wrong with wanting to be inclusive to these people?
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Maybe it's just me, but my first thought when reading the title of this thread was "What aboutMuscle March?" But of course the article focuses on the possibility of gay marriage, rather than just the "gay community." It's interesting to note the differences in culture, though....
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I think this is a touchy topic, here goes... 
From a Christian standpoint, I believe Nintendo should not have apologized and should have nothing to do with any homosexual people in any form, because I find homosexuality a horrid sin.
From a business standpoint, I guess it is the right move in order to look better and possibly increase sales.
But honestly, if they're going to start making games with homosexuals in them, it's not worth any Christian person's time or money to play those games and support the company that made them.
This is my 2 cents on the subject.
From a Christian standpoint, I believe Nintendo should not have apologized and should have nothing to do with any homosexual people in any form, because I find homosexuality a horrid sin.
From a business standpoint, I guess it is the right move in order to look better and possibly increase sales.
But honestly, if they're going to start making games with homosexuals in them, it's not worth any Christian person's time or money to play those games and support the company that made them.
This is my 2 cents on the subject.
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Haha. Yeah, that's definitely catering to the gay community. Hubba-hubba.Sstavix wrote:Maybe it's just me, but my first thought when reading the title of this thread was "What aboutMuscle March?"
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Why can't game developers make games they want to without people pitching a fit? If you don't like what the game supports or not, then don't buy it. Simple. If the next Disney movie has a prince and princess falling in love and getting married will the LBGT community rise up against them too? Disney can make movies however they like to. If the LBGT doesn't want to see it, then they don't have to watch it. If Disney were to cave in to demands and make a homosexual royal couple, I won't watch or buy it. Simple.
I just feel bad for Nintendo on two levels.
One: They shouldn't have to please everybody with their game. Not everyone will like a game, it's a fact. Haters are gonna hate.
Two: They shouldn't have to apologize, that's how they made the game. Deal with it.
P.S. Muscle march looks hilarious
I just feel bad for Nintendo on two levels.
One: They shouldn't have to please everybody with their game. Not everyone will like a game, it's a fact. Haters are gonna hate.
Two: They shouldn't have to apologize, that's how they made the game. Deal with it.
P.S. Muscle march looks hilarious
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In all fairness, this site and community is built around Christian reviews for games and the idea that games can have moral and social values and evaluating them on those fronts. Has not each one of us judged game for it's portrayal of women in games, especially in regards to sexual objectification and the "chainmail bikini?" It matters how people are portrayed, and for Nintendo, I don't think they wanted to exclude those communities.
I don't think they left out homosexual relationships because of a moral stance. If not left out by negligence, it's probably left out because they didn't want to upset a lot of conservative families and just said "sorry, but we can't change it" to smooth over the backlash.
I don't think they left out homosexual relationships because of a moral stance. If not left out by negligence, it's probably left out because they didn't want to upset a lot of conservative families and just said "sorry, but we can't change it" to smooth over the backlash.
I feel this is a very unfair analogy. The LGBT community isn't complaining about media portraying heterosexual relationships; they want inclusion. It's the traditional marriage groups that gets upset when the "other side" gets screen time and demand for exclusion. It's not okay to then act like the LGBT groups are really the ones trying to exclude the other side.ccgr wrote:If the next Disney movie has a prince and princess falling in love and getting married will the LBGT community rise up against them too?
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Oh remember reading this earlier today.
As someone who is (for a reason unknown to myself) thinking about buying Tomodachi Life...
I have kept an eye on news relating to it... even the silly rant piece wrote before this article.
It was rather silly and a bit annoying to see how upset people were about it, flaming Nintendo for "betraying" them...
even though gay marriage is illegal in Japan; Of course Nintendo wasn't thinking about it.
Well, I am going to pass on the next Tomodachi Life. (IF they make another. )
Since I wouldn't be able have Mii versions of you guys without odd things potentially happening, >_<
as the user's control over the miis is quite limited in this game.
As someone who is (for a reason unknown to myself) thinking about buying Tomodachi Life...
I have kept an eye on news relating to it... even the silly rant piece wrote before this article.
It was rather silly and a bit annoying to see how upset people were about it, flaming Nintendo for "betraying" them...
even though gay marriage is illegal in Japan; Of course Nintendo wasn't thinking about it.
Well, I am going to pass on the next Tomodachi Life. (IF they make another.
)Since I wouldn't be able have Mii versions of you guys without odd things potentially happening, >_<
as the user's control over the miis is quite limited in this game.
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Nintendo doesn't need to make any kind of statements or apologies in regard to their games. Period. CCGR had it dead on when she said they should make games the way they want to, regardless of the haters. There will always be haters. Authors, writers, programmers, musicians, and artists have always had haters, and they've all survived until now. What is different however is we're not seeing mere haters anymore.
We're seeing a well organized and extremely well funded campaign against conservatives and Christians in particular, and it extends far, far beyond the whole gay-rights crusade. Have we considered exactly why all these media circuses are getting shoved down our throats on every front? Why have two HGTV hosts been canned for being Christians? Why is it now a court martial offense to practice our Christian faith in the military? Why are Christians now listed up with al qaeda as being among the most dangerous terrorist groups according to the Department of Homeland Security? Why is it that illegal immigrants can get away with just about anything, including voting, getting drivers licenses, and having checking accounts, but actual citizens have to show multiple forms of ID, submit biometric information, usually in the form of a finger or thumb print and/or urine and breath samples at banks, places of employment, or police checkpoints? This isn't for our security. Now as you read my words, I'm sure you're wondering if they're the ravings of a lunatic, but consider the lessons of history. The Communist revolution in Russia began with the persecution of farmers, bakers, and bankers because they were demonized as hoarders, money grubbers, and abusers of the poor. The Jews in Germany were persecuted along with Hitler's political opponents by the Brownshirts and the Presscorps during his rise to power, and you know what happened to all opponents, especially the Jews. There are disturbing parallels going on right here in America. Black pitted against white, Hispanic against black and white, Christian against Muslim, and pretty much everyone against Christians in general. Now a complete whackjob would advocate violence after making such a damning case, but not only am I completely sane, but Christ in me forbids violence as long as options remain. For the most powerful option, we must look into our Lord's own example. Jesus ate in the homes of prostitutes, criminals, and tax collectors. Why? Because the healthy are not in need of a physician. The whole gay debate is nothing but one of many sideshows, but the gays and lesbians are being used as pawns, just like many Christian conservatives are. They're a voting bloc, and an army of potential foot soldiers to further Balkanize the country, but as the body of Christ, we're His voice, His Hands, and His feet. Do not condone sin, but love the sinner as taught by Jesus Himself. If we do this, soemthing interesting will happen. Not only will we lead many to Christ not by mere words but by example, but suddenly the fractures in this nation will begin to heal. The American people will be able to unite, share knowledge, and will be able to see the true enemies at work.
We've fallen for very elementary traps. For too long, we have forgotten the simple truth that we're not warring against flesh and blood, but against spiritual wickedness in high places. C'mon brothers and sisters, time to get our heads in the game!
We're seeing a well organized and extremely well funded campaign against conservatives and Christians in particular, and it extends far, far beyond the whole gay-rights crusade. Have we considered exactly why all these media circuses are getting shoved down our throats on every front? Why have two HGTV hosts been canned for being Christians? Why is it now a court martial offense to practice our Christian faith in the military? Why are Christians now listed up with al qaeda as being among the most dangerous terrorist groups according to the Department of Homeland Security? Why is it that illegal immigrants can get away with just about anything, including voting, getting drivers licenses, and having checking accounts, but actual citizens have to show multiple forms of ID, submit biometric information, usually in the form of a finger or thumb print and/or urine and breath samples at banks, places of employment, or police checkpoints? This isn't for our security. Now as you read my words, I'm sure you're wondering if they're the ravings of a lunatic, but consider the lessons of history. The Communist revolution in Russia began with the persecution of farmers, bakers, and bankers because they were demonized as hoarders, money grubbers, and abusers of the poor. The Jews in Germany were persecuted along with Hitler's political opponents by the Brownshirts and the Presscorps during his rise to power, and you know what happened to all opponents, especially the Jews. There are disturbing parallels going on right here in America. Black pitted against white, Hispanic against black and white, Christian against Muslim, and pretty much everyone against Christians in general. Now a complete whackjob would advocate violence after making such a damning case, but not only am I completely sane, but Christ in me forbids violence as long as options remain. For the most powerful option, we must look into our Lord's own example. Jesus ate in the homes of prostitutes, criminals, and tax collectors. Why? Because the healthy are not in need of a physician. The whole gay debate is nothing but one of many sideshows, but the gays and lesbians are being used as pawns, just like many Christian conservatives are. They're a voting bloc, and an army of potential foot soldiers to further Balkanize the country, but as the body of Christ, we're His voice, His Hands, and His feet. Do not condone sin, but love the sinner as taught by Jesus Himself. If we do this, soemthing interesting will happen. Not only will we lead many to Christ not by mere words but by example, but suddenly the fractures in this nation will begin to heal. The American people will be able to unite, share knowledge, and will be able to see the true enemies at work.
We've fallen for very elementary traps. For too long, we have forgotten the simple truth that we're not warring against flesh and blood, but against spiritual wickedness in high places. C'mon brothers and sisters, time to get our heads in the game!
It's kinda tough for God to lie when everything He says tends to pop into existence.
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Sorry for the rant, but I see this kind of thing every time I turn around. The solution is so simple, it just astonishing that people don't see it.
It's kinda tough for God to lie when everything He says tends to pop into existence.
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Rant accepted. Actually, I've had many similar thoughts myself, especially regarding the political landscape.
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Alright, first, Nintendo is not required to apologize. They did it most likely since it's good business sense.
Second, okay, DCTech, most of what you said is just demonstrably wrong. The HGTV show was not cancelled because they were Christians. You're not court-martialed for being a christian. Christianity is not a terrorist group. Illegal immigrants cannot get away with everything, and certainly not voting, while citizens are getting full nine. If anything, the hunt for illegal immigrants is putting more pressure on everyone, including citizens. Not sure what this has to do with the "spiritual war," as most of these immigrants are christian. The plight of the modern American Christian is no where near akin to Jews in Nazi Germany. These are just blatantly wrong.
This is almost interesting to what degree things must slanted in order to make the Christian seem like the underdog victim.
How about this: Christianity is the majority power player here in America. By far. You know why Christians feel like everybody's against them? Because they are biggest player in the game and it's hard to give up special privileges. I wonder what so many actually consider a fair and equal playing ground would look like.
Do you know how much American politics caters to the Christian faith? Congress is more christian than the American public, and the American public is, by a large majority, mostly Christian.
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And this congress is even more Christian than the last.
Guess how many openly atheist presidents we've had? None. How many in atheists in congress? Zero.
It's just about political suicide to not be a Christian in politics. One representative from California came out as Atheist, but he lost his primary election. In California.
Second, okay, DCTech, most of what you said is just demonstrably wrong. The HGTV show was not cancelled because they were Christians. You're not court-martialed for being a christian. Christianity is not a terrorist group. Illegal immigrants cannot get away with everything, and certainly not voting, while citizens are getting full nine. If anything, the hunt for illegal immigrants is putting more pressure on everyone, including citizens. Not sure what this has to do with the "spiritual war," as most of these immigrants are christian. The plight of the modern American Christian is no where near akin to Jews in Nazi Germany. These are just blatantly wrong.
This is almost interesting to what degree things must slanted in order to make the Christian seem like the underdog victim.
How about this: Christianity is the majority power player here in America. By far. You know why Christians feel like everybody's against them? Because they are biggest player in the game and it's hard to give up special privileges. I wonder what so many actually consider a fair and equal playing ground would look like.
Do you know how much American politics caters to the Christian faith? Congress is more christian than the American public, and the American public is, by a large majority, mostly Christian.
http://www.pewforum.org/2011/01/05/fait ... -congress/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
And this congress is even more Christian than the last.
Guess how many openly atheist presidents we've had? None. How many in atheists in congress? Zero.
It's just about political suicide to not be a Christian in politics. One representative from California came out as Atheist, but he lost his primary election. In California.