^ That's what my mom thinks.Bruce_Campbell wrote:My wife's read some of the books, she thinks they're too violent.
I watched the first movie and loved it. Haven't seen the other two though.
Dirt cake?
^ That's what my mom thinks.Bruce_Campbell wrote:My wife's read some of the books, she thinks they're too violent.
A good, swift kick between the legs.Chozon1 wrote:What's the proper response when you can't think of a good comeback?
Bruce_Campbell wrote:A good, swift kick between the legs.Chozon1 wrote:What's the proper response when you can't think of a good comeback?
Is there clear evidence that that this God exists, and does s/he communicate with me clearly and concisely (i.e. not from an ancient religious text that has been translated and retranslated and cobbled together and rearranged so many times and contradicts itself again and again)? When you say s/he loves me as I am, why would s/he want to change me? And when you say things that I disagree with, do you mean condoning and or commanding slavery or slaughtering children, or sitting by and doing nothing while innocent children are being abused and neglected? I guess it all depends.Darkkodiak wrote:If you knew that there was a just God out there who created the universe, loves you the way you are, and has a good plan for you, would you still want to get to know/follow Him even if you don't understand/agree with the way He does everything?
On my backlog? Totes magotes.Too many books?
Darkkodiak wrote:If you knew that there was a just God out there who created the universe, loves you the way you are, and has a good plan for you, would you still want to get to know/follow Him even if you don't understand/agree with the way He does everything?
Bruce_Campbell wrote:Is there clear evidence that that this God exists, and does s/he communicate with me clearly and concisely (i.e. not from an ancient religious text that has been translated and retranslated and cobbled together and rearranged so many times and contradicts itself again and again)? When you say s/he loves me as I am, why would s/he want to change me? And when you say things that I disagree with, do you mean condoning and or commanding slavery or slaughtering children, or sitting by and doing nothing while innocent children are being abused and neglected? I guess it all depends.
I'm sorry if it comes across that I am trying to start some kind of debate, because I'm not. I'm trying to format the question in a yes or no answer format. For the purpose of refocusing the question, I would define the details as below:Bruce_Campbell wrote:For the record, I don't believe that a deity like that exists. I was a Christian for about 25 years though, so I used to believe it.
If you knew = You fully believe that you have clear evidence that God existsBruce_Campbell wrote:Is there clear evidence that that this God exists,
Not necessarily, in this scenario you don't know if God is communicating with you or not or which methods would be used. You are at the point to where you need to decide if you want to begin communications or not.Bruce_Campbell wrote:does s/he communicate with me clearly and concisely (i.e. not from an ancient religious text that has been translated and retranslated and cobbled together and rearranged so many times and contradicts itself again and again)?
In this scenario, you do not have any information that would suggest that God wants to change you, and you don't know why God would want to change you. All you know is that God loves you and cares about you.Bruce_Campbell wrote:When you say s/he loves me as I am, why would s/he want to change me?
In this scenario, you know that God exists and loves you (and all others). There is however, a variety of scenarios in which you do not understand, including but not limited to: the present human slavery industry, families getting beheaded in the middle east, child soldier armies, wars, drug/alcohol addictions, physical disabilities, mental disorders, natural disasters, and a host of other things that are generally socially classified as "bad things". You do not understand why these things are in the world, and you don't know if God is doing anything about it or not, but you cannot escape from this belief that God exists and loves you (and others) despite the bad things also existing. You disagree with God in the sense that you do not see action being taken in the way that you would take action in response to "bad things".Bruce_Campbell wrote:And when you say things that I disagree with, do you mean condoning and or commanding slavery or slaughtering children, or sitting by and doing nothing while innocent children are being abused and neglected?
The heart of the question comes down to this: Is a God that we disagree with worth getting to know, if we know that He exists, created everything and loves us? So after answering your questions and clearing up the parameters of the original question, would you want to get to know God in these circumstances?Bruce_Campbell wrote:I guess it all depends.