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Re: Wargame Miniatures
Posted: Mon Nov 30, 2015 11:13 pm
by Wintercross
ArcticFox wrote:The fluff keeps that vague. In earlier versions, the Black Templars hated all psykers and absolutely would not ally with any of them, except for Grey Knights. It was like they were still following the Edict of Nikea just before the Horus Heresy when the Emperor forbade Marines to have Librarians anymore. It was kind of a contradiction, because like all Imperium forces, the Templars still had to rely on Navigators and Astropaths for their fleets to communicate and use FTL.
In the last couple codexes, they have mellowed out and will ally freely with psykers, but still have no Librarians of their own. The fluff presents a couple of theories, like a flaw in the gene seed that makes Templars never develop Psykers, or that they used to have them but some catastrophe happened that destroyed all Templar Librarians and they can never have them again.
Personally, I like the theory that says the Emperor's Champion in a Black Templars force is a latent psyker who is sent into the heaviest fighting to die honorably...
Well then, assuming my chapter was founded early on it is still possible they might have come from Black Templar gene seed then, since there is no definitive answer.
Re: Wargame Miniatures
Posted: Tue Dec 01, 2015 12:25 am
by ArcticFox
Yeah the fluff is flexible enough to allow lots of creative freedom.
The only problem you may have is if you want to play your army using Black Templars Chapter Tactics, you can't include Librarians in your primary detachment. Period. You could get creative and do a secondary detachment using Imperial Fists Chapter Tactics or something and have that Librarian be the HQ slot though.
Re: Wargame Miniatures
Posted: Tue Dec 01, 2015 3:24 am
by Wintercross
ArcticFox wrote:Yeah the fluff is flexible enough to allow lots of creative freedom.
The only problem you may have is if you want to play your army using Black Templars Chapter Tactics, you can't include Librarians in your primary detachment. Period. You could get creative and do a secondary detachment using Imperial Fists Chapter Tactics or something and have that Librarian be the HQ slot though.
well tbh I'm not using the latest codex anyway, I'm still on a couple back where you had the advantage and disadvantage traits you could pick to make your own chapter
I have 'trust your battle-brothers' trait which gives all my bolter armed units counter attack and true grit.
Re: Wargame Miniatures
Posted: Tue Dec 01, 2015 6:36 pm
by ArcticFox
Yeah I never played out of that codex. Until the 6th ed version came out the Black Templars had their own book.
Re: Wargame Miniatures
Posted: Thu Dec 03, 2015 12:00 am
by Wintercross
ArcticFox wrote:Yeah I never played out of that codex. Until the 6th ed version came out the Black Templars had their own book.
Yeah, I think the book I have might be 4th edition? I'm not sure...
Either way, when I bought the codex and rule book, they brought out the new one like a couple of months later and had removed the rules I based my chapter around so I was a bit annoyed and decided to not fork out more cash for another set of rules =P
Re: Wargame Miniatures
Posted: Thu Dec 03, 2015 3:08 pm
by ArcticFox
I don't blame you... the new hardcover codices are ridiculous, and the 7th Ed codex came out only 2 years after the 6th Ed one, and barely changed anything.
Problem is if you want to play pick up games at your local gaming venue, you're stuck having to use the newest version of everything.
Re: Wargame Miniatures
Posted: Sat Dec 05, 2015 12:19 am
by Wintercross
ArcticFox wrote:I don't blame you... the new hardcover codices are ridiculous, and the 7th Ed codex came out only 2 years after the 6th Ed one, and barely changed anything.
Problem is if you want to play pick up games at your local gaming venue, you're stuck having to use the newest version of everything.
Yeah, well the closest games workshop store is about 1.5-2 hour drive anyway and I don't really have a gaming group reasonably near by anyway =P
Friendly games tend to be a bit more malleable in the rules.
Re: Wargame Miniatures
Posted: Mon Dec 14, 2015 2:12 pm
by ccgr
Without hijacking this thread, I
started my own about painting my nativity scene. So much more respect for you guys painting stuff on a MUCH smaller scale. Kudos to you guys!
Re: Wargame Miniatures
Posted: Sun Jan 24, 2016 5:46 am
by Auri1984
Awesome job! Love the detail!
Re: Wargame Miniatures
Posted: Tue Feb 16, 2016 2:43 am
by ArcticFox
Been restructuring, reorganizing, re-casing and redoing my armies. Here's one of the first units to be completed from that effort. Others will be pictured as I get them done.
This squad is made entirely from old models from my extra parts boxes. The Rhino was in the process of becoming a Thousand Sons Rhino when I changed directions and went Black Templars with it. Most of the marines in Tactical Squad IV are from an old starter set, the sergeant is a metal mini I got from who knows where, and the guy with the Plasma Gun is another miscellaneous leftover guy.
Good way to expand the army without spending any new money
Re: Wargame Miniatures
Posted: Tue Feb 16, 2016 1:27 pm
by ccgr
nice job, love the colors and detail! Very resourceful!
Re: Wargame Miniatures
Posted: Wed Feb 17, 2016 1:46 am
by ArcticFox
Thanks!
Here's another unit I just finished, cobbled together form OLD parts... when I say old, I mean these are some of the very same models my dad bought me when I was in high school in 1990. I stripped them and repainted them to go with my current army. Then I took the Rhino, which I had done before, and attached it to this unit so that the old unit rides the old vehicle and they match. The lascannon carried by the heavy weapon marine is actually from an old Imperial Guard unit I used to have.
Re: Wargame Miniatures
Posted: Wed Feb 17, 2016 3:28 am
by ccgr
they look good as new!
Re: Wargame Miniatures
Posted: Thu Feb 18, 2016 8:19 am
by Chozon1
They look great, and it's awesome that they have a history! XD
I really like the Rhino too...is it different from the newer models? It looks amazing.
Re: Wargame Miniatures
Posted: Thu Feb 18, 2016 3:02 pm
by ArcticFox
Thanks! Yeah if you scroll up to my post before you can compare it with the newer version. (Newer is on top) I like them both, but the newer one does look more likely to have space enough inside for 10 marines!