Firebolt13 wrote:Also do any of you actually even play on the Minecraft server and this has majorly affected you or are you just ganging up on someone who did something wrong?
Actually, I think everyone in this thread (with the possible exceptions of Arch and Krytae) play Minecraft on the server. And from what little I know, stealing diamonds is a somewhat big deal since they're pretty hard to find and mine.
It's not the theft, it's the principle of it. He could've stolen dirt and it would still be a problem. You want to play with people you can trust and have fun with, not with people that may steal your stuff and/or set it on fire. And if you can't trust someone, you really don't want them hanging out around the thing that took a few weeks to build. So it's better if they aren't on the server at all.
Also, from what I remember over the bruhaha, the server was voted to be non-creative, and thus I don't think Wamps can just /givediamond to replace them. I could be wrong about that though.
Indeed. People defending ihasgaming are using the track "It's just a game, chill." Well, it's not "just a game." It's time. A lot of time. A frighteningly huge amount of time. It takes hours and hours to build something cool in Minecraft (especially in survival mode) and only seconds to destroy. What we have is someone who felt like that few seconds of gratification was worth more than the hours put into the stuff being destroyed or stolen.
That is not okay. If I have a choice between playing on a server that's going to tolerate griefing and a server that isn't, guess where I'm going to invest my gaming effort? The rules are stated up front. If someone knows the penalty for griefing is a server ban, and choose to grief, then the outcome is a no-brainer.
It['s also been said that the damage can be rolled back so it's no big deal... Well A rollback cuts both ways. What if I'd made huge progress on a project between the time of the last backup and th et ime the rollback was performed? That could easily be a greater loss than what was griefed, under the right conditions. Besides, that defense doesn't wash. It says "Well we shouldn't be punished for destroying people's work because it can all be fixed." No. Wampa didn't work hard to build his stuff to provide somebody like ihasgaming with the amusement of burning it down. Doesn't matter whether the damage is easy to fix or difficult. This server isn't a funhouse for griefers. Period. If you can't understand that then there are literally thousands of other MC servers to choose from...
...If you haven't already burned those bridges too.
I run a Minecraft server for my gaming club, and I agree completely with the ban. The only way I'd consider un-banning someone who had been griefing would be if I saw them on another server following the rules and playing nice in the sandbox, thus convincing me they'd mended their ways. That is the ONLY way.
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Guys, I saw the amount of damage this clown did. It was a lot more than a few diamonds from Wampa. Believe me, you don't want him back on the server. The main reason I don't take his apology seriously is because there was so much he left out.
A vegan atheist walks into a bar. Bartender says "Hey, are you a vegan atheist? Just kidding, you've mentioned it like eight times already."
Yeah he didn't just steal from just me either. And no I don't have an "infinite" supply of diamonds. This guys just another griefer and I see no redeemable reason to let him back on. He also destroyed houses/floating islands.
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ArcticFox wrote:Indeed. People defending ihasgaming are using the track "It's just a game, chill." Well, it's not "just a game." It's time. A lot of time. A frighteningly huge amount of time. It takes hours and hours to build something cool in Minecraft (especially in survival mode) and only seconds to destroy. What we have is someone who felt like that few seconds of gratification was worth more than the hours put into the stuff being destroyed or stolen.
That is not okay. If I have a choice between playing on a server that's going to tolerate griefing and a server that isn't, guess where I'm going to invest my gaming effort? The rules are stated up front. If someone knows the penalty for griefing is a server ban, and choose to grief, then the outcome is a no-brainer.
It['s also been said that the damage can be rolled back so it's no big deal... Well A rollback cuts both ways. What if I'd made huge progress on a project between the time of the last backup and th et ime the rollback was performed? That could easily be a greater loss than what was griefed, under the right conditions. Besides, that defense doesn't wash. It says "Well we shouldn't be punished for destroying people's work because it can all be fixed." No. Wampa didn't work hard to build his stuff to provide somebody like ihasgaming with the amusement of burning it down. Doesn't matter whether the damage is easy to fix or difficult. This server isn't a funhouse for griefers. Period. If you can't understand that then there are literally thousands of other MC servers to choose from...
...If you haven't already burned those bridges too.
I run a Minecraft server for my gaming club, and I agree completely with the ban. The only way I'd consider un-banning someone who had been griefing would be if I saw them on another server following the rules and playing nice in the sandbox, thus convincing me they'd mended their ways. That is the ONLY way.
ArcticFox wrote:
It['s also been said that the damage can be rolled back so it's no big deal... Well A rollback cuts both ways. What if I'd made huge progress on a project between the time of the last backup and th et ime the rollback was performed? That could easily be a greater loss than what was griefed, under the right conditions. Besides, that defense doesn't wash. It says "Well we shouldn't be punished for destroying people's work because it can all be fixed." No. Wampa didn't work hard to build his stuff to provide somebody like ihasgaming with the amusement of burning it down. Doesn't matter whether the damage is easy to fix or difficult. This server isn't a funhouse for griefers. Period. If you can't understand that then there are literally thousands of other MC servers to choose from...
ok, you either have a bad roleback plugin, or your just stupid. because you can select an area to roll back in you idiot!
if you roll back the entire server then you have some bloody problems
Watch it. I won't hesitate to ban you here as well if you continue this trend of flaming and cursing.
-Deepfreeze32
ArcticFox wrote:Indeed. People defending ihasgaming are using the track "It's just a game, chill." Well, it's not "just a game." It's time. A lot of time. A frighteningly huge amount of time. It takes hours and hours to build something cool in Minecraft (especially in survival mode) and only seconds to destroy. What we have is someone who felt like that few seconds of gratification was worth more than the hours put into the stuff being destroyed or stolen.
That is not okay. If I have a choice between playing on a server that's going to tolerate griefing and a server that isn't, guess where I'm going to invest my gaming effort? The rules are stated up front. If someone knows the penalty for griefing is a server ban, and choose to grief, then the outcome is a no-brainer.
It['s also been said that the damage can be rolled back so it's no big deal... Well A rollback cuts both ways. What if I'd made huge progress on a project between the time of the last backup and th et ime the rollback was performed? That could easily be a greater loss than what was griefed, under the right conditions. Besides, that defense doesn't wash. It says "Well we shouldn't be punished for destroying people's work because it can all be fixed." No. Wampa didn't work hard to build his stuff to provide somebody like ihasgaming with the amusement of burning it down. Doesn't matter whether the damage is easy to fix or difficult. This server isn't a funhouse for griefers. Period. If you can't understand that then there are literally thousands of other MC servers to choose from...
...If you haven't already burned those bridges too.
I run a Minecraft server for my gaming club, and I agree completely with the ban. The only way I'd consider un-banning someone who had been griefing would be if I saw them on another server following the rules and playing nice in the sandbox, thus convincing me they'd mended their ways. That is the ONLY way.
Whell its your fault for having a role back that does this i know thousands upon thousands of plugins that are better than hawk eye. i am a server hoster myself and do all the plugin finding and setting up. if someone greifs outside the designated role play areas i can role back THE GREFING PLAYER ONLY to a certain time form 10 seconds ago to 5 years and it is verry precise.
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Oh, I get it! It's the plugin's fault! It was probably the plugin that forced him to destroy all that stuff in the first place. Heck, I bet it's the plugin that logged in here with his account and posted all those naughty words.
A vegan atheist walks into a bar. Bartender says "Hey, are you a vegan atheist? Just kidding, you've mentioned it like eight times already."
Bro. Stop. Just, stop. You're obviously quite upset right now. I'm willing to give you the benefit of a doubt on the cursing and have edited your posts. But mark my words, do that again, and you will be banned from this site.
Hawk-eye can rollback by specific user the problem is that we haven't been using it very long since our previous plugin stopped working with the latest Minecraft version so we couldn't rollback very far. Since i'm not the one who undid the damage I can't say how it was done exactly. I'm sorry ihasgaming but we go with a majority vote here, people have messed up and we have let them back on before but it seems like you have upset many people here and there's still a lot of hurt feelings.
ccgr wrote:Hawk-eye can rollback by specific user the problem is that we haven't been using it very long since our previous plugin stopped working with the latest Minecraft version so we couldn't rollback very far. Since i'm not the one who undid the damage I can't say how it was done exactly. I'm sorry ihasgaming but we go with a majority vote here, people have messed up and we have let them back on before but it seems like you have upset many people here and there's still a lot of hurt feelings.
Maybe it can rollback a specific user but HELLO, it stuffs up big time (i know from personal experience as many of u probably already know).
But im not trying to make this about me, we all know he did something wrong but he's sorry.
Anyway its your decision but i reckon he should get a second chance.
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