Behold, the body of Adonis and the brain of a squirrel.

[Chozon1]

I'm glad you never heard the song, it's life changing... In both good and bad ways.

I'm not surprised you compared OW to TF2, it was similar at first but now I know that there's major differences. It's almost a moba, you can just change characters and don't have to fight towers and stuff.

I'm that guy that does play a moba, just not a very popular one. I play Paragon pretty well. I find it way more fun than League which I found more fun than Dota.

Paragon?

Yeah, I really, really tried to like DOTA, because it's kinda 'the' MOBA, and if you want to get 'serious' in MOBA's for esports, that seems where you go...but I couldn't. The matches carry all the stress of a MOBA, and none of the fun. XD Plus, the learning curve is more of an arch the size of the one in St. Louis.

League though, I really enjoyed. I only quit playing it because my computer couldn't handle it after an update. I'd probably still play it if I could. Plus, while League players are turds half the time, DOTA players seem to take pleasure in being as cruel as possible. XD Especially if you're just learning.

/scarred

So Paragon...it interests me. It's on the list of games I want to try, but want to be able to devote serious time to. And coming up with enough time to devote to it seems rather difficult, for some reason. That's why I like Vainglory so much; it's on my Kindle, so I can usually play a match or two while I'm watching TV or sommat. Ranked matches I cannot leave can be played on the toilet, since...well, no one's going to bother me there. >_>

The fact I can play Paragon on a console, rather than my PC, is a huge thing for me, though. And eventually, I will probably give it a go. I like Epic.

Well, I'm glad you like my idea. I don't know how well it would turn out, and I just don't have the time/energy to devote to it right now. I might put some more thought into it this weekend...

If you liked that, try the second (of four) movements on that album. Once again, I recommend listening to the whole thing in one go because it blends together really nicely.



Thoughts?

It's funny, because it's such a sad story, but the music and vocals are so good. There's probably a moral in there, too.

[micah211]

It was definitely worth it!

This weird thing where I can't type in the box without clicking where my next letter will go??? (That took maybe 5 minutes to type)

[Deepfreeze32]

If you haven't figured out the story yet, I'll tell you once you've listened to the whole thing. For now, movement 3 of 4 (My personal least favorite, in part because of how much of a downer it is).



Thoughts?

[RedPlums]

Rhubarb?

[Chozon1]

It was definitely worth it!

This weird thing where I can't type in the box without clicking where my next letter will go??? (That took maybe 5 minutes to type)

That would just be untenable. If I couldn't fix it, I would write things up in a word processor and copy paste. If that didn't work, I would probably start screaming at my computer in pseudo-Russian, shove away from my desk threatening it, and come back several hours later.

If you haven't figured out the story yet, I'll tell you once you've listened to the whole thing. For now, movement 3 of 4 (My personal least favorite, in part because of how much of a downer it is).



Thoughts?

I looked it up after the first five minutes of the first video, akshually. >_>

It was dark, depressing, and did a good job of conveying dread...it fit with the narrative though.

[micah211]

So it's actually still happening. I did some searching and found that every type of forums with the same program as CCG... It's annoying.

Hang in there cat?

[Deepfreeze32]

The final movement (Assuming you haven't listened to it already) is filled with a bit more hope, but ends on a bittersweet note.



Thoughts on both the movement, and the album as a whole?

[Chozon1]

So it's actually still happening. I did some searching and found that every type of forums with the same program as CCG... It's annoying.

Hang in there cat?

Have you tried screaming at your computer in pseudo-Russian? It'll make you feel better, if it doesn't fix anything. >_>

I don't know. I like them...I think they're cute...but I would never put one on my desk. At some point, the fact a kitteh is telling me to hang in there, to basically get over it without acknowledging my pain/suffering/endurance...would make me want to punch it. >_>

The final movement (Assuming you haven't listened to it already) is filled with a bit more hope, but ends on a bittersweet note.

Thoughts on both the movement, and the album as a whole?

I wouldn't call it sweet. My thoughts are...not happy ones, I guess. XD

I...don't know. I found it frustrating, to use a gentle term. For one, it speaks clearly of the evils of ambition and pride. Which is good...but I could never tell if it was intentional or not on the part of the author. Whether or not they were actually aiming to make a point, or simply telling an interesting story set to music. The drive to succeed is shown as a good thing for most of the album...until it destroys countless lives. At which point it's sorta just given an 'oops'. Not "maybe we could have done this differently", not "This was wrong", just...oops.

Alternatively, they kind of painted it as the story of someone who found his purpose and gave his life to fulfill it...but that's not really what happened. The kid lost everything dear to him because everyone and his grandfather told him he had to have a mystical 'purpose' instead of just loving him for who he was (save for him mom).

For another, for the father to commit suicide...that's just dumb. XD That didn't help anyone; it was just emo. Not that suicide ever helps, but come on; he had a way to fix the various problems he caused, he could've recanted of his selfishness and let go of his dream, but instead he was like "Nope. I MUST DIE."

And then it ends with the guy getting stoned out of his head and writing his math formula with his imagined father. A formula that no one else will probably understand, and that may not even make sense because in the end, he was basically scrawling math while on drugs. Everything makes sense while you're high. XD Yes, it is implied that something 'magical' happened for father and son to unite from beyond the grave...or maybe the prodigy just used two different forms of handwriting because he was stoned out of his mind.

Rant out of the way...musically, I could listen to it again, because it was amazing. And the vocals themselves, lyrics aside, were fantastic. Just...amazing. No complaints.

[Deepfreeze32]

My take is that the story is kind of meant to highlight the strengths and weaknesses of ambition. As the father essentially ruins his family through his quest for the "theory of everything," we see that the drive for success is a dangerous thing. This is further highlighted by the son, who does basically drugs himself into a vegetative state for this theory.

As someone with sometimes-crippling mental illnesses, the story speaks to me on a very personal level. The message I get is "You can overcome your setbacks, but don't fly too close to the sun." I think, more than anything, the Teacher's words at the end about "will we ever understand" are meant to show that overcoming one's limitations at the expense of life and limb may not be worth it, and I think the creator is trying to push us towards the "not worth it" camp because of how the mother and the girl react to the situation. They are clearly disturbed and horrified. It's my take that this story is meant to be a tragedy in the vein of Icarus: ambition may set you free, but it may kill you as well if unchecked.

So in short, I think we are supposed to feel conflicted and unsure of the motives of the son and the father. So in a way, your reaction is what I would expect. The sense that they did wrong and foolish things in pursuit of this theory is something to take heed of.

Or it could just be an interesting story told to music. XD


And yes, it is an awesome musical achievement (including the singing sans-lyrics here). I love it.


Now, for some comedy:



Thoughts?

[micah211]

I hate those posters, they're just so typicall know that I wouldn't want one.

When you play a game for the 3rd time through and notice a really cool easter egg?

[Chozon1]

My take is that the story is kind of meant to highlight the strengths and weaknesses of ambition. As the father essentially ruins his family through his quest for the "theory of everything," we see that the drive for success is a dangerous thing. This is further highlighted by the son, who does basically drugs himself into a vegetative state for this theory.

As someone with sometimes-crippling mental illnesses, the story speaks to me on a very personal level. The message I get is "You can overcome your setbacks, but don't fly too close to the sun." I think, more than anything, the Teacher's words at the end about "will we ever understand" are meant to show that overcoming one's limitations at the expense of life and limb may not be worth it, and I think the creator is trying to push us towards the "not worth it" camp because of how the mother and the girl react to the situation. They are clearly disturbed and horrified. It's my take that this story is meant to be a tragedy in the vein of Icarus: ambition may set you free, but it may kill you as well if unchecked.

So in short, I think we are supposed to feel conflicted and unsure of the motives of the son and the father. So in a way, your reaction is what I would expect. The sense that they did wrong and foolish things in pursuit of this theory is something to take heed of.

Or it could just be an interesting story told to music. XD


And yes, it is an awesome musical achievement (including the singing sans-lyrics here). I love it.


Now, for some comedy:



Thoughts?

Yeah, but no one ever really overcame their limitations; their ambition and pride actually insured they could not, and pushed them down a path that ended in a cliff. The drug helped the prodigy temporarily, but would have eventually driven him insane even on the low dose. It was a broken crutch that ended up stabbing his hand because he wouldn't let it go. The father could not accept that the equation was unsolvable by him, and so ruined his life by refusing to accept that. Then he used his son as a crutch, because if the prodigy could solve it, then technically the father could take credit for it. When that drove him to evil and then failed, he still couldn't accept it.

So I don't think they flew too close to the sun; I think the sun was too far away, too hard to reach, so they settled for jumping off the cliff sans wax wings.

And I still can't tell if the author intended that, or missed that while making another point.

And that...was wildly hilarious. XD

Gotta say though, the reason the alien landing was kept a secret is because the aliens didn't die: government cut a deal. In return for troop shipments and supplies for their wars, we get various civilian and weapon tech advancements, which the government sporadically releases so as to fake 'discovery' and slowly advances technology. I thought everyone knew this?

It's why computer tech has so rapidly advanced since the 50's.

I hate those posters, they're just so typicall know that I wouldn't want one.

When you play a game for the 3rd time through and notice a really cool easter egg?

Always a fun time. I'm still finding treasures in the first Uncharted.

[micah211]

Horizon - Zero Dawn?

[Deepfreeze32]

I thought that was the point I was making, but I was really tired when I wrote that, so I dunno. XD

Here's another Mitchell & Webb for for you:



Thoughts?

[Chozon1]

Horizon - Zero Dawn?

Looks amazing. No money, or I'd have pre-ordered. That's how awesome I think the game will be. It's probably my second most wanted game of 2017, actually. And that includes the backlog of games that have released in preceding years.

It'll probably be birthday or Christmas, if I don't manage to scrape the money up in the meantime.

I thought that was the point I was making, but I was really tired when I wrote that, so I dunno. XD

Here's another Mitchell & Webb for for you:



Thoughts?

Nice. So was I. XD

Funny, but I still prefer the first one...not that the whole 'gate' thing doesn't bother me...I swear, sometimes I just want to punch journalists.

[micah211]

I really want it too! The new Legions didn't come out yet though

Looking at all this music here, have you heard of EDEN?