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Re: Jude

Postby Chozon1 » Sat Nov 21, 2009 3:22 am

Hmm...that was interesting.

I've always found it odd/awesome, that even though Satan knows the Scripture, and heard Jesus' parables, he still was not able to discern what 'killing' Jesus would mean.
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Re: Jude

Postby ccgr » Sun Nov 22, 2009 5:36 pm

I never understood his last temptation offer at Christ either...how he had the gall to offer Christ to be a king on earth...as if Jesus would need his help pffft
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Re: Jude

Postby Chozon1 » Mon Nov 23, 2009 1:48 am

Desperation does crazy things.
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Re: Jude

Postby ccgr » Sat Nov 28, 2009 10:35 am

http://www.realtime.net/~wdoud/jude/jude05.html

I thought this week' study was very interesting, I recently read about Korah's rebellion in my daily reading. I thought the in-depth story of Balaam was good, I didn't realize what he did other than trying to curse the jews.
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Re: Jude

Postby Chozon1 » Sat Nov 28, 2009 11:53 pm

I had never thought about the fact that Cain refused to kill an animal to show his faith, but readily killed his own brother out of anger. I enjoyed the Balaam story too. Makes more sense. I didn't understand why Balaam was later killed for blessing Israel three times. I get now that he wasn't blessing them intentionally. XD
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Re: Jude

Postby ccgr » Wed Dec 09, 2009 10:17 am

whooops dropped the ball on this one, got carried away with planning my son's b-day party

http://www.realtime.net/~wdoud/jude/jude06.html

I found this part interesting:

Those in the "book of life" are not judged, because of the law of double jeopardy, which is stated in John 3:18: "Whoever believes in him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe stands condemned already because he has not believed in the name of God's one and only Son." The believer cannot be tried again for that which was already tried on the Cross: the law of double jeopardy.

I don't think we get a complete free ride but are exempt form the final judgement
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Re: Jude

Postby Chozon1 » Thu Dec 10, 2009 1:51 am

I think it says somewhere in the Bible that everyone will have to stand judgment for their deeds...Paul or Peter said something to the effect of "they will be saved, but it will be as though passing through fire"...

? I could be wrong. It's likely.

This one was interesting...I liked the analogy of apostates being like rocks just under the surface, though.
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Re: Jude

Postby ccgr » Tue Dec 22, 2009 7:09 pm

http://www.realtime.net/~wdoud/jude/jude07.html

The biggest take away for me was the recap of the Apostleship

The apostles were sovereignly selected by the Holy Spirit, I Cor. 12:11; Eph. 4:11; and I Cor. 12:28. "All these are the work of one and the same Spirit, and he gives them to each one, just as he determines." (I Cor. 12:11) "It was he who gave some to be apostles, some to be prophets, some to be evangelists, and some to be pastor/teachers." (Eph. 4:11)

The gift of apostleship was the gift of absolute (over all the churches) spiritual authority. The gift was to sustain the Church until the Canon of Scripture was completed; and this completion occurred in 96 AD. And the exercise of absolute spiritual authority requires the spiritual gift.

The apostles to the Church were not appointed until after the resurrection of our Lord, Ephesians 4:8. "This is why it says: When he ascended on high, he led captives in his train and gave gifts to men."

Thus, it is necessary to distinguish between the apostles to the Church and the apostles to Israel. The apostles to Israel are cited in Matthew 10:2-10. There is, however, an overlap between the two groups in that eleven of the apostles to Israel became apostles to the Church.

Acts 1:22, I Cor. 9:1, and 15:8,9 state that the apostles to the Church were required to have seen the resurrected Christ. Whereas the apostles to Israel beheld our Lord in His Incarnation (human body prior to the Cross).

The spiritual authority of the apostles was maintained, confirmed and validated by supernatural gifts: the gifts of tongues, miracles, and healing, according to Acts 5:15, 16:16-18, 28:8,9.

The catalogue of the apostles to the Church: Simon Peter, Andrew, John, Philip, James, Bartholomew (Nathanael), Thomas, Matthew, Simon Zelotes, Jude (Thaddeus, Lebbaeus), James (the Less), and Paul. Note that Paul replaced Judas Iscariot, according to I Timothy 1:12-16 and I Cor. 15:7-10. The election of Matthias in Acts 1 was illicit; God the Holy Spirit reserves the right of appointment.

According to Acts 14:14, Barnabas was also an apostle. And the fact that James (the Less), our Lord's half-brother, was an apostle is confirmed in I Cor. 15:7, and Galatians 1:19.

And there were, possibly, two other apostles: Apollos, in I Cor. 4:6,9; and Timothy, in I Thessalonians 1:1, 2:6. Additionally, Sylvanus (Silas) is identified with Timothy but not necessarily as an apostle. [2]
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Re: Jude

Postby Chozon1 » Wed Dec 23, 2009 2:41 am

I don't think I've read anything that went into the the details of what exactly an apostle was before. Cool.
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Re: Jude

Postby ccgr » Mon Jan 04, 2010 9:56 pm

http://www.realtime.net/~wdoud/jude/jude08.html

I thought the part talking about the soul vs the spirit was interesting

The believer is spiritually regenerated ("born again") at the moment of salvation and becomes trichotomous, i.e., soul life, body life, and spiritual life, I Thessalonians 5:23. And Romans 8:16 and I Corinthians 2:10,13 assert that this spiritual life and the filling of God the Holy Spirit remove all natural mental restrictions.

this is the last section
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Re: Jude

Postby Chozon1 » Wed Jan 06, 2010 2:27 am

Hmm...that was cool. Odd and confusing. But cool. ^_^

Liked how they said that only the body died, but not the soul. Death is just the soul leaving the body.
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