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The problem is,
Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2012 11:37 am
by Chozon1
I don't see a way to put myself through college without going hideously into debt. And I refuse to dig myself into a hole I'll never (or for at least several decades) get out for information I could find for free in a local library or on teh interwebs. Or by kidnapping a professor.
Unless I go to the local community college (which isn't a problem, and it's cheap), and play cello or viola (which is a problem, since I'ma guitarer and wants to learn guitarness. >:[ ) for a few years. -_- Or I could go to the local Christian Liberal Arts college (which is more expensive, but manageable), where 'piano proficiency must be demonstrated' in order to apply for the music program. Oh yes, it's that kind of college.
So I've decided to declare myself homeless and adopt 7 foreign children and get married (then rapidly divorced) so the government will actually give me some aid. I see no flaws in this plan.
Re: The problem is,
Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2012 3:49 pm
by ccgr
your plan is flawed, adoption is expensive
Re: The problem is,
Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2012 5:05 pm
by Syksy
... unless you adopt a 20-year old with a good degree and his/her own apartment
though chances of that being possible/legal are quite slim (?) ...
Re: The problem is,
Posted: Fri Feb 17, 2012 1:33 am
by Orodrist
You could do what I'm doing and just get a job....
But, meh.
Given that my plans involve working myself to death by the time I'm 30, that may not work for you.
Re: The problem is,
Posted: Fri Feb 17, 2012 6:00 am
by Deepfreeze32
Chozon1 wrote:Unless I go to the local community college (which isn't a problem, and it's cheap), and play cello or viola (which is a problem, since I'ma guitarer and wants to learn guitarness. >:[ ) for a few years. -_- Or I could go to the local Christian Liberal Arts college (which is more expensive, but manageable), where 'piano proficiency must be demonstrated' in order to apply for the music program. Oh yes, it's that kind of college.
I hate to say it...but as a guitar player, you are probably gonna struggle with theory if you have that attitude. The reason colleges require an instrument like Cello/Viola is because there's a lot of music written for them. And a piano should be obvious: The note scale becomes a number line. So unless you were kidding (As I partly suspect you were), music in college is going to require some diversification. Besides, learning other instruments is a blast. It expands your repertoire, and it's ossum.
Just my thoughts.
Re: The problem is,
Posted: Fri Feb 17, 2012 7:47 am
by Chozon1
The reason that particular college requires cello/viola is because it's a classical music course based on orchestral/choral music. -_- None of which is particularly something I'm interested in playing on the guitar. Or band. They have a marching band.
For that matter, I'm lazy; learning something for the piano that I need to apply to the guitar is just an extra step I don't care to go through. On paper, it's easy to learn the methods and formulas and fit them into music...in my life, it never works out that way. At least for me. I've nothing against learning a new instrument, and rather enjoy it. It bothers me though, that it's a prerequisite to applying to the music school. It's castrating; "Yes. We'll teach you music. But only on the piano, then you can apply it to whatever".
I DEFY THEE LIBERAL ARTS.
So I'm only 25% kidding. The other 75% says to join a Christian rock college.
Edit: And fo' teh record Doc, this has me pretty stressed and vaguely (all I'm willing to admit to is 'vaguely' at any rate.
) frightened. I'm probably snapping at you like a tiny chihuahua, and I'm sorry for it.
Re: The problem is,
Posted: Fri Feb 17, 2012 3:16 pm
by ChickenSoup
I think having at least a moderate level of skill on the piano is a requirement for most music schools? it's pretty much the standard tool for composition
Re: The problem is,
Posted: Fri Feb 17, 2012 9:24 pm
by jester747
Deepfreeze32 wrote:Chozon1 wrote:Unless I go to the local community college (which isn't a problem, and it's cheap), and play cello or viola (which is a problem, since I'ma guitarer and wants to learn guitarness. >:[ ) for a few years. -_- Or I could go to the local Christian Liberal Arts college (which is more expensive, but manageable), where 'piano proficiency must be demonstrated' in order to apply for the music program. Oh yes, it's that kind of college.
I hate to say it...but as a guitar player, you are probably gonna struggle with theory if you have that attitude. The reason colleges require an instrument like Cello/Viola is because there's a lot of music written for them. And a piano should be obvious: The note scale becomes a number line. So unless you were kidding (As I partly suspect you were), music in college is going to require some diversification. Besides, learning other instruments is a blast. It expands your repertoire, and it's ossum.
Just my thoughts.
bew.
I learn theory whenever theory becomes relevant to what I'm doing. I don't burden myself with an extensive array of some 300 year old dead guy's creative language that I'll never use.
I do play piano a bit though, and it definitely helps, so I might just be blowing smoke.
Re: The problem is,
Posted: Sun Feb 19, 2012 3:16 am
by ChickenSoup
jester747 wrote:Deepfreeze32 wrote:Chozon1 wrote:Unless I go to the local community college (which isn't a problem, and it's cheap), and play cello or viola (which is a problem, since I'ma guitarer and wants to learn guitarness. >:[ ) for a few years. -_- Or I could go to the local Christian Liberal Arts college (which is more expensive, but manageable), where 'piano proficiency must be demonstrated' in order to apply for the music program. Oh yes, it's that kind of college.
I hate to say it...but as a guitar player, you are probably gonna struggle with theory if you have that attitude. The reason colleges require an instrument like Cello/Viola is because there's a lot of music written for them. And a piano should be obvious: The note scale becomes a number line. So unless you were kidding (As I partly suspect you were), music in college is going to require some diversification. Besides, learning other instruments is a blast. It expands your repertoire, and it's ossum.
Just my thoughts.
bew.
I learn theory whenever theory becomes relevant to what I'm doing. I don't burden myself with an extensive array of some 300 year old dead guy's creative language that I'll never use.
I do play piano a bit though, and it definitely helps, so I might just be blowing smoke.
We're probably all talkin' 'bout career musicians and professional artsists, though
Re: The problem is,
Posted: Sun Feb 19, 2012 5:28 am
by Chozon1
Which is why I wish to learninate it. Try doing something 'the right way' for once. Otherwise, I'm like Jester; learn it if I need it. Most of the theory I tangle with has to do with chord formination and scaling.
This is, unless I mistake it, also still an argument in teh musical world; for every theory wiz, there's an unlearned that's just as good.
Re: The problem is,
Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2012 6:21 am
by ChickenSoup
Jester grinned, his eyes shining with bloodlust as the sound of grinding metal and rending flesh filled the room. Chozon's jaw dropped as the eleven-inch adamantium claws emerged from between Jester's knuckles, but he didn't have time to gawk. Jester wanted blood. He wanted it badly.
Re: The problem is,
Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2012 5:15 am
by Chozon1
I'm not entirely sure this was the thread you wanted this in.
But I haven't been surprised by Jesters claws since Winter of 08. You do NOT want to get snowed in with him.
>_>
Re: The problem is,
Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2012 9:26 pm
by ChickenSoup
wow, I have no idea how I posted that in this thread o_o
Re: The problem is,
Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2012 11:10 pm
by jester747
Yeah, I was really wondering about that. XD
Re: The problem is,
Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2012 7:00 am
by Chozon1
Close your eyes and make it didn't happen. >_<
...working?
On the + side, I did manage to find this jank:
Here is everything you are expected to prepare for your audition. Please contact the instructor or Admissions Office if you have any questions or concerns about this material. We are far more interested in our students having a desire and a capacity to learn, than simply possessing a specific set of knowledge.
1) Technique. During the audition you will be expected to demonstrate the following techniques to help determine your skill level:
Consistent right hand alternate picking
Fluent 4-fret left hand pattern
Comfortable string crossing
Count time and play with a Metronome
Speed, stamina, and dexterity
Harmony Exercises:
A minor pentatonic scale in all inversions
One octave major and minor scales
Major, minor, diminished and augmented triads
Major and minor bar chords with the roots on the 6th (E) string
Major and minor bar chords with the roots on the 5th (A) string
Basic first position 'open string' including major, minor, and seventh chords
Student must demonstrate familiarity of notes on the fret board
All harmony in keys up to 3 accidentals
2) Prepared Pieces:
Majesty
Give Me Your Hand
3) Additional Material:
Please prepare a solo piece of your choosing. The 'solo' piece should demonstrate technical and/or rhythmic complexity. It should not be something you can master in a few days! Think of this as showing us the most impressive thing you can play. Obviously, if you don't read music, it is totally acceptable to learn a line by-ear; just make sure you can play it note-for-note!
Remember to provide a backing track for yourself where appropriate.
Some possible choices for your song might be something from the Guitarmageddon series (like "Classic Rock (A)", "Pop Punk Rock (C)", or "Drop D Rock (D)". Lincoln Brewster has guitar solos on several songs (see "All to You" and "Everlasting God"). Or you can choose any song that you think fits your style best.
The college of mah choice. And moist of that I can do. The glaring flaws being dexterity and stamina, as well as the harmony memorization. And the triads. I know them, but I canna pour them from my fingers like water.