Not easy, not short.. But keep me in your prayers
Posted: Sat Jan 14, 2012 6:27 am
All,
This prayer request is extremely difficult as my situations are sort of multilayered in nature.. but I just happened across this part of the forum and I know (from experience) that prayer works.
Where to begin.. about 10 years or so ago I was dating someone (not my wife) and was very involved in a non denominational church. I typically disliked these churches because I felt the getting up and dances and hopping around was a bit much.. (a bit disrespectful maybe..) but I was going there because my girlfriend went there. We ended up traveling to a church in another city, with a group of friends, which was known for prophecy. Growing up baptist I never really had dealt much with it but my heart was open if God wanted to use it.
Well, I sat down with the prophetic ministry people (three of them) and really told them nothing about myself.. They prayed for a bit and started telling me things about the future. Well, alot of folks were writing stuff down like crazy, but I chose to just let God bring it all back up IF it was truly him talking through the people. Well.. HE DID.
Everything single thing they said to me, save the one this post is about, has come to pass... and when it did I struggled and asked why why why.. and in a small still voice I was reminded of the words of prophecy.. This built may faith up and I started getting more active in the church (the one mentioned earlier) Things were going good, but within a very short period of time it all fell apart.. The music minister, who was training me moved out of state.. my job changed and I had to go to an office further away, hence I couldn't meet with my mentor who was helping me understand the word... AND (big one here) my girl friend lost her job (boss died) and couldn't find work.. her parents begged me to let her stay with me for a bit (bad idea right..) I had an extra room and she was to get a place and move out pronto! mainly because I was starting to lead bible studies for our group there..
She didn't move.. and I ended up having to move out and force her out on her own and it pretty much put a halt to my leadership.. with her living with me.. Moving on a bit...
The last prophetic thing they had told me was related to my music.. For years I had played guitar and sang and was always singing and listening to music.. I was starting the beginnings of a music studio (like in my house/apartment) and I feel like it all came down crashing around me.. I ended up splitting up with her later and not too long after that I met my wife.. (sorry this is a long story but it's a 10 year or more thing..)
For years after that I felt my self obsessing with what they said.. here goes.. "You will be a shooting star for God, with your music.. This will not happen until you get alone with God... BUT it will happen.."
So I found myself, over the years, having more stress, in that relationship and other things, and slowly.. sadly.. lost my song..
For years, I have steadily fell further away from Churches.. feeling that every church I joined .. that I just didn't belong there..
My wife and I got a new house (couple of years after getting married and staying with family) and I invested in more equipment and would sit down and struggle to come up with anything musical.. This has gone on for many many years.
not too long after my first son's birth.. I lost my job and was without work for roughly a month and a half.. I started reading the word and every morning I saw my son.. just looking up at me with a smile.. he had no idea what was going on.. but he had the faith of a child.. I started reading the book of Hosea, then Job, and even a bit of proverbs and Ecclesiastes. ( I know some happy reading there right? but it was sobering..)
I ended up getting a job about 45 minutes away.. and I started listening to Christian radio.. I've been doing this for years and I have been really learning a lot and have been convicted to change many of my ways.. But the change is slow going.. Which worries me in these dark times..
I have been praying, although not nearly enough, and I have been crying out to God (but I read one portion of the word that said something like "they wail in their beds but do not cry out to God.." and this perplexed me as to how this could be.. but I think i'm starting to understand it.
I also have been thinking a lot about what it means to get alone with God.. (sorry this is a multi layer issue heh) So I have been trying to get up early in the morning, which is very very hard for me.. all my life i've gotta 8 hours of sleep but never felt rested when I got up.. never. I have a really hard time getting up so I've tried to plan readings later on but i'm always so tired after work..
I come home and I play video games to relax. So here are my issues..
1) I feel like I've already lost my talents..
2) I am doubting my salvation.. I was saved when I was like 8 or 9, and I knew what it meant and took it seriously.. but what does a child know... I've seen so much seen then and I see what I am.. a sinner..
3) I know God can save. He can change me, he can use me, and his grace is sufficient.. But I'm the problem.. I cannot make my self collapse under the weight I have on me now. I was raised not too.. I have to keep going to take care of my family..
4) I have repeatedly tried the method of "get off your blessed assurance and do something.." but it's not working.. again. I begin to doubt I'm even saved.. Some of the good people I listen too (James Macdonald, Michael Youseh, david jeremiah, and alister begg all seem to be saying the same things it seems.. one who is saved will get closer to God.. day by day.. not further away..
5) I am feeling VERY burdened by God to give up video gaming all together.. I see us all slipping into our entertainment, even on a Christian site, and hardly ever discussing God in the video games we play together.. However, My wife is a gamer and it's part of how we met and it's something we do together.. how can I quit it...?
6) I am feeling like it's too late for me and "my music".. like it's pointless to even try.. I use to come up with full symphony arrangements in my head while driving home from work.. Every part of it. each instrument.. It's all gone now..
7) My wife and I love the church near our house and the people are wonderful wonderful people. Hearts that work for and listen to God, but I cannot bring myself to darken the doorway.. I have tried over and over and I will make it on a Wednesday night.. then maybe on a Sunday and then not make it back for months..
8) We have four 9-10 year old cats who we got early on.. since then my wife, and son, have come down allergic to them.. they are like family but we have to get rid of them.. We have tried and tried but cannot find them a home.. and I in all of this feel i'm breaking down to the point I can't even take care of them.. They have to go. but where? no shelters open.. no homes. nothing..
I feel like God is working on me, and using all the things above, but I feel like i'm being stubborn and the scripture "God will not strive man forever.." keeps coming to my mind.. also, "it is a terrible thing to be in the hands of the living God".. (not sure if that's the exact way it's said..)
I feel like I am not changing fast enough and soon.. it will be too late.. But I cannot make myself change.. All I can do is cry out to him.. Lately, I have been asking him.. HOW.. how can I get right with him and all I'm hearing is pray, pray, pray.. but I have an issue.. I easily get caught up in all the work, home, and other parts of life and honestly forget to pray..
When I was young.. I prayed to God more times a day than I think I could have counted.. It was just what I did.. But now I feel like I've fallen away.. I cry out constantly. wailing from my bed, but am I truly crying out to God? Or am I wailing because of the knowledge of my sin, but knowing I am unwilling to change.. or is it unable...
I have since gotten a hold of a book. that I heard about while listening to allistar begg. I believe that I am starting to understand more about salvation.. slowly.. The book is called "The anxious inquirer after salvation directed by "james, John Angell"...
the book is very old but I managed to find it on amazon for my kindle app.. (android) it's a very challenging book and I think I'm starting to realize that I cannot save myself, but my hopes are in God.. that if I go after him.. he will not turn me away.. That If I ask for wisdom and discernment.. that he will give it. but I keep falling.. I keep forgetting. then I get in my car each morning and realize that I wasted the prior evening/day and didn't pray much.. didn't read the word..
I feel like my very soul is crumbling.. and yet my body has to still stand.. part of me believes that this crumbling is God tearing me down.. bit by bit.. so I can be made new.. the other part of me believes that I am fighting him.. (a losing battle, which I need to lose) but I can't make my self give up..
I am really sorry for such a long winded post.. but this is all on my heart every second of every day.. and I have a houseful of people/animals (Lord, the animals...) that depend on me.. but I feel my very health starting to slip (and I'm only 38) and I'm not sure where I stand with God. If I was truly saved, wouldn't I be sure? and wouldn't I be doing something more? How can a child of age.. who understands the words read to him.. walk the isle.. accept Christ.. pray to God for years after that (going to church, etc.) and then fall away in his 20's.. later wondering if that child like faith truly saved him at all..
Please pray for me.. I am not really sure where this is all leading, but I want to believe God is using it.. because I can't make a single bit of it budge.. in any direction.. Job, life, pets, etc. I can't change any of it.. I'm trapped.. But in this could God be working and is my thinking of fast change wrong? I read where some of the mighty men of God (most of them) had major issues.. some taking many years to go through.. am I in that situation??
- Graej.
This prayer request is extremely difficult as my situations are sort of multilayered in nature.. but I just happened across this part of the forum and I know (from experience) that prayer works.
Where to begin.. about 10 years or so ago I was dating someone (not my wife) and was very involved in a non denominational church. I typically disliked these churches because I felt the getting up and dances and hopping around was a bit much.. (a bit disrespectful maybe..) but I was going there because my girlfriend went there. We ended up traveling to a church in another city, with a group of friends, which was known for prophecy. Growing up baptist I never really had dealt much with it but my heart was open if God wanted to use it.
Well, I sat down with the prophetic ministry people (three of them) and really told them nothing about myself.. They prayed for a bit and started telling me things about the future. Well, alot of folks were writing stuff down like crazy, but I chose to just let God bring it all back up IF it was truly him talking through the people. Well.. HE DID.
Everything single thing they said to me, save the one this post is about, has come to pass... and when it did I struggled and asked why why why.. and in a small still voice I was reminded of the words of prophecy.. This built may faith up and I started getting more active in the church (the one mentioned earlier) Things were going good, but within a very short period of time it all fell apart.. The music minister, who was training me moved out of state.. my job changed and I had to go to an office further away, hence I couldn't meet with my mentor who was helping me understand the word... AND (big one here) my girl friend lost her job (boss died) and couldn't find work.. her parents begged me to let her stay with me for a bit (bad idea right..) I had an extra room and she was to get a place and move out pronto! mainly because I was starting to lead bible studies for our group there..
She didn't move.. and I ended up having to move out and force her out on her own and it pretty much put a halt to my leadership.. with her living with me.. Moving on a bit...
The last prophetic thing they had told me was related to my music.. For years I had played guitar and sang and was always singing and listening to music.. I was starting the beginnings of a music studio (like in my house/apartment) and I feel like it all came down crashing around me.. I ended up splitting up with her later and not too long after that I met my wife.. (sorry this is a long story but it's a 10 year or more thing..)
For years after that I felt my self obsessing with what they said.. here goes.. "You will be a shooting star for God, with your music.. This will not happen until you get alone with God... BUT it will happen.."
So I found myself, over the years, having more stress, in that relationship and other things, and slowly.. sadly.. lost my song..
For years, I have steadily fell further away from Churches.. feeling that every church I joined .. that I just didn't belong there..
My wife and I got a new house (couple of years after getting married and staying with family) and I invested in more equipment and would sit down and struggle to come up with anything musical.. This has gone on for many many years.
not too long after my first son's birth.. I lost my job and was without work for roughly a month and a half.. I started reading the word and every morning I saw my son.. just looking up at me with a smile.. he had no idea what was going on.. but he had the faith of a child.. I started reading the book of Hosea, then Job, and even a bit of proverbs and Ecclesiastes. ( I know some happy reading there right? but it was sobering..)
I ended up getting a job about 45 minutes away.. and I started listening to Christian radio.. I've been doing this for years and I have been really learning a lot and have been convicted to change many of my ways.. But the change is slow going.. Which worries me in these dark times..
I have been praying, although not nearly enough, and I have been crying out to God (but I read one portion of the word that said something like "they wail in their beds but do not cry out to God.." and this perplexed me as to how this could be.. but I think i'm starting to understand it.
I also have been thinking a lot about what it means to get alone with God.. (sorry this is a multi layer issue heh) So I have been trying to get up early in the morning, which is very very hard for me.. all my life i've gotta 8 hours of sleep but never felt rested when I got up.. never. I have a really hard time getting up so I've tried to plan readings later on but i'm always so tired after work..
I come home and I play video games to relax. So here are my issues..
1) I feel like I've already lost my talents..
2) I am doubting my salvation.. I was saved when I was like 8 or 9, and I knew what it meant and took it seriously.. but what does a child know... I've seen so much seen then and I see what I am.. a sinner..
3) I know God can save. He can change me, he can use me, and his grace is sufficient.. But I'm the problem.. I cannot make my self collapse under the weight I have on me now. I was raised not too.. I have to keep going to take care of my family..
4) I have repeatedly tried the method of "get off your blessed assurance and do something.." but it's not working.. again. I begin to doubt I'm even saved.. Some of the good people I listen too (James Macdonald, Michael Youseh, david jeremiah, and alister begg all seem to be saying the same things it seems.. one who is saved will get closer to God.. day by day.. not further away..
5) I am feeling VERY burdened by God to give up video gaming all together.. I see us all slipping into our entertainment, even on a Christian site, and hardly ever discussing God in the video games we play together.. However, My wife is a gamer and it's part of how we met and it's something we do together.. how can I quit it...?
6) I am feeling like it's too late for me and "my music".. like it's pointless to even try.. I use to come up with full symphony arrangements in my head while driving home from work.. Every part of it. each instrument.. It's all gone now..
7) My wife and I love the church near our house and the people are wonderful wonderful people. Hearts that work for and listen to God, but I cannot bring myself to darken the doorway.. I have tried over and over and I will make it on a Wednesday night.. then maybe on a Sunday and then not make it back for months..
8) We have four 9-10 year old cats who we got early on.. since then my wife, and son, have come down allergic to them.. they are like family but we have to get rid of them.. We have tried and tried but cannot find them a home.. and I in all of this feel i'm breaking down to the point I can't even take care of them.. They have to go. but where? no shelters open.. no homes. nothing..
I feel like God is working on me, and using all the things above, but I feel like i'm being stubborn and the scripture "God will not strive man forever.." keeps coming to my mind.. also, "it is a terrible thing to be in the hands of the living God".. (not sure if that's the exact way it's said..)
I feel like I am not changing fast enough and soon.. it will be too late.. But I cannot make myself change.. All I can do is cry out to him.. Lately, I have been asking him.. HOW.. how can I get right with him and all I'm hearing is pray, pray, pray.. but I have an issue.. I easily get caught up in all the work, home, and other parts of life and honestly forget to pray..
When I was young.. I prayed to God more times a day than I think I could have counted.. It was just what I did.. But now I feel like I've fallen away.. I cry out constantly. wailing from my bed, but am I truly crying out to God? Or am I wailing because of the knowledge of my sin, but knowing I am unwilling to change.. or is it unable...
I have since gotten a hold of a book. that I heard about while listening to allistar begg. I believe that I am starting to understand more about salvation.. slowly.. The book is called "The anxious inquirer after salvation directed by "james, John Angell"...
the book is very old but I managed to find it on amazon for my kindle app.. (android) it's a very challenging book and I think I'm starting to realize that I cannot save myself, but my hopes are in God.. that if I go after him.. he will not turn me away.. That If I ask for wisdom and discernment.. that he will give it. but I keep falling.. I keep forgetting. then I get in my car each morning and realize that I wasted the prior evening/day and didn't pray much.. didn't read the word..
I feel like my very soul is crumbling.. and yet my body has to still stand.. part of me believes that this crumbling is God tearing me down.. bit by bit.. so I can be made new.. the other part of me believes that I am fighting him.. (a losing battle, which I need to lose) but I can't make my self give up..
I am really sorry for such a long winded post.. but this is all on my heart every second of every day.. and I have a houseful of people/animals (Lord, the animals...) that depend on me.. but I feel my very health starting to slip (and I'm only 38) and I'm not sure where I stand with God. If I was truly saved, wouldn't I be sure? and wouldn't I be doing something more? How can a child of age.. who understands the words read to him.. walk the isle.. accept Christ.. pray to God for years after that (going to church, etc.) and then fall away in his 20's.. later wondering if that child like faith truly saved him at all..
Please pray for me.. I am not really sure where this is all leading, but I want to believe God is using it.. because I can't make a single bit of it budge.. in any direction.. Job, life, pets, etc. I can't change any of it.. I'm trapped.. But in this could God be working and is my thinking of fast change wrong? I read where some of the mighty men of God (most of them) had major issues.. some taking many years to go through.. am I in that situation??
- Graej.