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I never read the Graphic novels, but wasn't he more of an antihero?

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There's a difference?

Indifferent.
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Have you seen Black Swan and if so, what did you think of it?

Discussions on the IMDB message boards have called my attention to the rather large amount of depth and subtext in that movie that warrants repeat viewings and closer analysis, but the sexual content is a deterrent for me for buying the DVD.
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Yes. There's a difference between hero/antihero. I haven't figured out the modern fascination with the antihero. I think it has to do with people wanting to feel better about themselves.

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Yeah I get what you mean. Some antiheroes work for me (like outlaw biker Ben from the game Full Throttle) but other don't.

Such as in the movie Leon (a.k.a. The Professional) where professional hitman Leon dies at the end and it's supposed to be a really serious and sad moment. I just thought "so what, he's a remorseless hired killer, why should I care if he dies?", I felt a little sorry for the girl but that's it. Or in A Clockwork Orange, where Stanley Kubrick tries to make you feel really sorry for his rapist, murdering protagonist who can no longer rape or murder. Sorry, mr. Kubrick, that doesn't work for me.
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Harvester wrote:Have you seen Black Swan and if so, what did you think of it?

Discussions on the IMDB message boards have called my attention to the rather large amount of depth and subtext in that movie that warrants repeat viewings and closer analysis, but the sexual content is a deterrent for me for buying the DVD.
Afraid I haven't. I certainly want to, and mean to eventually, because it certainly looks interesting.
Chozon1 wrote:Yes. There's a difference between hero/antihero. I haven't figured out the modern fascination with the antihero. I think it has to do with people wanting to feel better about themselves.

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It's because antiheroes are realistic. In the real world, good things rarely get done by good means. Chaotic good is still good.

Gonna have to agree with Harvester's examples though, even though I liked Leon.

First thing that comes to mind is Zao's A Pirates Prayer.
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As I said, self esteem. "I'm not perfect, much like that guy, and yet he's still a hero and makes me look good on a morality basis".
Harvester wrote:Yeah I get what you mean. Some antiheroes work for me (like outlaw biker Ben from the game Full Throttle) but other don't.

Such as in the movie Leon (a.k.a. The Professional) where professional hitman Leon dies at the end and it's supposed to be a really serious and sad moment. I just thought "so what, he's a remorseless hired killer, why should I care if he dies?", I felt a little sorry for the girl but that's it. Or in A Clockwork Orange, where Stanley Kubrick tries to make you feel really sorry for his rapist, murdering protagonist who can no longer rape or murder. Sorry, mr. Kubrick, that doesn't work for me.
Yep. Totally agree. I actually like the Punisher, and empathize with him. Riddick, though cool, leaves me wondering why I should feel bad for a dude who is really a criminal.

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Sí señor.

And my hands and eardrums.
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Part of the fun. XD I actually managed to freeze burn my thumb with butane. Which is a first for the 4th.

As a scientifical theory, the size of the "OH HECK YESH" is directly proportional to the size of the "FOOSH...KABOOM"?
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The (male) dean of the college I'm looking at having hair the same length as mine? XD
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Probably a sign it's a good college for you.
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Yeah. Yeah.

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