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rexecidous wrote:The isralites did not kill for entertainment!!!
True. But that wasn't the point, but rather that killing isn't *always* a sin. Which is true.
rexecidous wrote:War video games are like gladiators


killing and violence for the entertainment of others!!!!
Also true. And something no one really bothers to question, but just applies 'It's pixels, not blood'+Romans 14 and moves on. I'm not sure how I feel about it, admittedly, but even Mario kills things. It's tricky to find a game with no violence in it that's still fun to play. It's not just 'war games'.

There is also the fact that it's not exactly like gladiators. At least, not for everyone. CoD is, as I said earlier, unlike many war games in that it is anti-war. I take that to heart, so for me, I actually get more than 'kill everything' out of it. I enjoy the characters, and the bond between them, as well as the look at war that shows it to be cruel, violent, bleak, and generally a bad option for life. Even Gears of War, arguably one of the more violent games in existence, shows the pain, ruin and cost of war amidst its whirling chainsaws of fun.

It's still killing for fun though, I'll admit. But you can get a bit more out of it depending on the game.
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If you're going to compare violence in games with homosexuality in games, keep this in mind: We have a buffer... A society that generally frowns upon violence and we are frequently reminded at how bad and awful war and killing are.

On the other hand, we are also in a society that is increasingly favorable toward all forms of sexual immorality, and there are always plenty of people to tell you why it is right, and fewer people to remind you of why it's wrong.

Therin lies the danger.
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You guys might rage at me for this post, but I have discovered that I really do strongly believe this.

As a follower of Jesus, I believe homosexuality is wrong, yet I really love the people who practice it. That brings me to my second point of view. As an American, I feel like I cannot, in my right mind, deny another person the right of a gay marriage. I do not want the government to force other people to not be homosexual because that does not change their heart. Only Jesus can change the heart, and we, as "Christians", have been called to represent Christ to these people. I don't want the government to do the church's job.

I'm sorry, we do not represent Christ by voting republican or holding republican values*; Jesus never was very political, at all. We represent Jesus by loving others, and I truly believe that Jesus comes into people's lives through that love we show for them and Jesus himself is the only way to truly cure immorality in our culture and the world. We are treating the symptoms; we are covering them up with band-aids and aspirins when we have internal, bleeding injuries. Do you get my drift?

In terms of video games, most games let you sin in one way or another. The only problem I would really have is if you were forced to be homosexual. Word to the wise, that will never happen, unless the games is marketed specifically for homosexuals, which is a smaller market than you might think. Games like Mass Effect 3 have homosexuality in it, but guess what? So does the real world. God created those people too, and you can't avoid loving them. I mean, you can, but if you do that, you've missed the point of following Jesus.

After-all, when you think about it, the games are really giving us the option to live a christian lifestyle or a non-christian lifestyle. Why is that so aggravating?




*This part was less a rant at you guys, and more at people in my life. ;)
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He's right, but there's a fine line between avoiding judgement and not standing up for what you believe in.
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Chozon1 wrote:
rexecidous wrote:The isralites did not kill for entertainment!!!
True. But that wasn't the point, but rather that killing isn't *always* a sin. Which is true.
rexecidous wrote:War video games are like gladiators


killing and violence for the entertainment of others!!!!
Also true. And something no one really bothers to question, but just applies 'It's pixels, not blood'+Romans 14 and moves on. I'm not sure how I feel about it, admittedly, but even Mario kills things. It's tricky to find a game with no violence in it that's still fun to play. It's not just 'war games'.

There is also the fact that it's not exactly like gladiators. At least, not for everyone. CoD is, as I said earlier, unlike many war games in that it is anti-war. I take that to heart, so for me, I actually get more than 'kill everything' out of it. I enjoy the characters, and the bond between them, as well as the look at war that shows it to be cruel, violent, bleak, and generally a bad option for life. Even Gears of War, arguably one of the more violent games in existence, shows the pain, ruin and cost of war amidst its whirling chainsaws of fun.

It's still killing for fun though, I'll admit. But you can get a bit more out of it depending on the game.



Good point!
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ArcticFox wrote:If you're going to compare violence in games with homosexuality in games, keep this in mind: We have a buffer... A society that generally frowns upon violence and we are frequently reminded at how bad and awful war and killing are.

On the other hand, we are also in a society that is increasingly favorable toward all forms of sexual immorality, and there are always plenty of people to tell you why it is right, and fewer people to remind you of why it's wrong.

Therin lies the danger.

Actually war games are great in the army the encourage you to play them
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ArcticFox wrote:If you're going to compare violence in games with homosexuality in games, keep this in mind: We have a buffer... A society that generally frowns upon violence and we are frequently reminded at how bad and awful war and killing are.

On the other hand, we are also in a society that is increasingly favorable toward all forms of sexual immorality, and there are always plenty of people to tell you why it is right, and fewer people to remind you of why it's wrong.

Therin lies the danger.
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rexecidous wrote:Actually war games are great in the army the encourage you to play them
It's more because thee games encourage teamwork, not because they're violent.
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Chozon1 wrote: You're just a backwards republican.
So the Moonbats keep telling me. :mrgreen:

Funny thing is... I'm not a Republican.
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rexecidous wrote:Actually war games are great in the army the encourage you to play them
It's more because thee games encourage teamwork, not because they're violent.


Sure.....
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rexecidous wrote:Actually war games are great in the army the encourage you to play them
It's more because thee games encourage teamwork, not because they're violent.


Sure.....

Uh really?
because my sister knows someone at her work who plays lots of war games and guess what he wants to be? A soldier and guess why?

BECAUSE HE WANTS TO SHOOT PEOPLE
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rexecidous wrote: Uh really?
because my sister knows someone at her work who plays lots of war games and guess what he wants to be? A soldier and guess why?

BECAUSE HE WANTS TO SHOOT PEOPLE
That just means HE wants to be in the army. The army wants able-bodied, stable, intelligent people. Does that sound like your sister's acquaintance?
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Nate DaZombie wrote:
rexecidous wrote: Uh really?
because my sister knows someone at her work who plays lots of war games and guess what he wants to be? A soldier and guess why?

BECAUSE HE WANTS TO SHOOT PEOPLE
That just means HE wants to be in the army. The army wants able-bodied, stable, intelligent people. Does that sound like your sister's acquaintance?



My sister asked him why he wanted to be in the army? he told her he wanted too se he could shoot people
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If you actually have experienced war and enjoyed it, you have psychological problems. Your sister's co-worker may think war is cool because of video games, but that's not definite proof as to why the army encourages you to play shooters. The military has tried experiments with desensitization and violent video games. It didn't work. Plus, let's wait and see what your sister's co-worker says about war and shooting someone until they've actually experienced it.

War is brutal, and although FPSes might be great recruitment for the military, but it cannot prepare you for the horror of war.

So like I said, the military encourages its people to play video games because it builds teamwork.


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