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Those are kinda mean. Exactly the kind a young lad should give to a teacher though.
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I see.
45-70?
45-70?

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I dunno if I'd really have a place for one. No doubt it's effective, but modern ballistics have gone waaay past the old cartridge.
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This is true, but nothing like a good old 45-70 cowboy gun in my mind. That would just be fun. o.o
Cheapest bolt-action rifles out there that are still well made? As in not crap. Excluding milsurp. <_<
Cheapest bolt-action rifles out there that are still well made? As in not crap. Excluding milsurp. <_<

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I hear the Savage Edge is good for around $300 in good few chamberings. But it's plastic.
The Weatherby Vanguard starts at around $400, again, synthetic, but higher grade than the Savage. Up at around $500, there are a few wooden stocked Vanguard, and also the Tikka T3's.
The Weatherby Vanguard starts at around $400, again, synthetic, but higher grade than the Savage. Up at around $500, there are a few wooden stocked Vanguard, and also the Tikka T3's.
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Hmm, I've never looked into the Weatherby rifles. I suppose I should... just haven't.
*googles them*
And I don't mind synthetic as long as it's decent plastic. Nice thing about it is I'm far less concerned about dinging it up/scratching it when out in the woods as I would be a nice expensive wood stock.
You heard much about these Vanguards? As in shooting performance, jamming, etc.?
*googles them*
And I don't mind synthetic as long as it's decent plastic. Nice thing about it is I'm far less concerned about dinging it up/scratching it when out in the woods as I would be a nice expensive wood stock.
You heard much about these Vanguards? As in shooting performance, jamming, etc.?

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Well, they're built by Howa, which is another company to look at come to think of it.
I hear the action's smooth, and the company has a MOA accuracy guarantee. It's generally seen as one of the better value pieces available.
I hear the action's smooth, and the company has a MOA accuracy guarantee. It's generally seen as one of the better value pieces available.
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Well, I think you've sold me on 'em. I've been looking for a bolt around that price range, and like what I'm reading.
How about these Tikka T3's? I can't get on their website. -_-
How about these Tikka T3's? I can't get on their website. -_-

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Tikka's seem to be more or less the same deal but pricier but with more caliber choices.
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Ah.
Would you go with a smaller cartridge like a 30-06/.270 etc. or go with something bigger, like a .300 Win Mag/WSM or 7mm Rem Mag if you were me going for a next gun?
Also, can you find a list of all the calibers the Vanguard comes in? I... can't. Or rather, the computer won't let me. >_<
Would you go with a smaller cartridge like a 30-06/.270 etc. or go with something bigger, like a .300 Win Mag/WSM or 7mm Rem Mag if you were me going for a next gun?
Also, can you find a list of all the calibers the Vanguard comes in? I... can't. Or rather, the computer won't let me. >_<

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Honestly, here in FL anything more than a .30-06 is overkill.
It's .223, .22-250, .243, .25-06, .270 Win, 7mm-08, .308, .257 Wby. Mag, .270 WSM, 7mm Rem Mag, .300 Win Mag, .300 WSM, .300 Wby. Mag, and .338 Win Mag.
Go with the .300 Weatherby <_<
It's .223, .22-250, .243, .25-06, .270 Win, 7mm-08, .308, .257 Wby. Mag, .270 WSM, 7mm Rem Mag, .300 Win Mag, .300 WSM, .300 Wby. Mag, and .338 Win Mag.
Go with the .300 Weatherby <_<
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Yeah, due to the significance cost difference between the 30-06 ammo and bigger... I think I'd go with an '06. XD
Next gun you wanna purchase?
Yeah, due to the significance cost difference between the 30-06 ammo and bigger... I think I'd go with an '06. XD
Next gun you wanna purchase?

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Not sure.
Been considering the Vanguards myself. Don't really need a hunting rifle, so I'd probably go with something like .22-250 so I can get some bragging groups.
Been considering the Vanguards myself. Don't really need a hunting rifle, so I'd probably go with something like .22-250 so I can get some bragging groups.
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