Christ Centered Gamer

What does that mean?

I used to think that when you took an Armor Save from the plasma weapon overheating, it was done at the plasma gun's Strength of 7. Since the weapon is AP2, that would mean regular marine power armor got no saving throw... But luckily, that isn't the case, and you just take a regular saving throw of 3+ with marine power armor.

Weird. But good to know. O_o Dunno if I'ma use plasma guns now, though. XD

Magnetising figures?

My son has had success in magnetizing a couple of Eldar Wraithlords to accommodate different weapons loadouts. I don't use magnets because my armies tend to be fairly straightforward and if I need options I prefer to just build separate models... but that's just because I love to build and paint so it's just another excuse to do more... My Land Raiders do have swappable options but I don't need magnets on them I just pop different parts into the turret slots.

For me, I think it'd only be on the expensive units, Land Raiders or Dreadnoughts. Though if I can just drop stuff in, I might not need to.

Been keeping up with E3?

No, I figure whatever cool stuff comes out of it is either:

-a year away or more and will be very different or
-more than I can afford at this time.

Mainly it's because I've been focusing on prepping 2 different armies for campaign play over the Summer.

When does that campaign start?

Also, have you noticed that the GW site has pulled the main 40K rule book from the 'shelves'?

The 30K Campaign starts on 30 June (I think... It's the day after I get back home from St. Louis)

Yeah it's because the release of the 6th edition book is imminent.

Nice. XD Are you ready to own peoples?

And yeah, I knows. I'm actually fairly excited. Dunno if I'll get the rulebook or an army, though. Logic says rulebook and a tac squad. My heart wants to start building my army. XD

Edit: It has occurred to me that, aside from paint and brushes, I have no idea what other sorts of supplies I will need in assembling the miniatures. *_* Halp?

I figure I can use Elmers for putting sand and assorted decorations onto the bases, but that it's not going to work for actual assembly of the models.

Chozon1 wrote:Nice. XD Are you ready to own peoples?

We'll see. I just got the paint I need to finish my Thousand Sons in the mail so I'm scrambling to get it all done before my trip. My plane gets in from St. Louis in the we hours of the morning on Saturday the 30th so my stuff has to be ready to rock & roll before I leave.

Chozon1 wrote: Edit: It has occurred to me that, aside from paint and brushes, I have no idea what other sorts of supplies I will need in assembling the miniatures. *_* Halp?

I figure I can use Elmers for putting sand and assorted decorations onto the bases, but that it's not going to work for actual assembly of the models.

For assembling minis: Go super glue. Always. Don't waste any money on model cement because that stuff only works with plastic. It won't bond metal and it won't bond Finecast because technically, Finecast is a type of resin. The other nice thing about super glue is that if you want to change the minis later, it's relatively easy to break the pieces apart to re-work things. Whatever brand of super glue you like, I recommend getting the gel thickness. Watery super glue is hard to control and takes longer to set.

For getting parts off of the sprues, get a good, sharp hobbyknife and/or a small pair of wire cutters.

Emory boards. Ones like you can find in the cosmetic section of the drugstore are great for sanding little bits of flash from plastic mini. Be exceptionally careful on Finecast stuff, and if you're working with metal you'll need a small file instead.

Elmer's is good for basing but try and get the wood glue. It's a lot more durable.

When you go to buy your paint, don't let them sell you those big paint sets. Just start off with a small handful of colors you know you'll need for the paint scheme you want, and you can expand from there as need and budget allow.

Nice. Painting deadline gogogo. XD If you don't mind my asking, what are you heading down to St. Louis for? And are you going to get some ribs while there?

There is only one correct answer to that last part. >_>

Hobby knife = eXacto knife? And how useful/necessary would you say a pair of clippers are, overall?

I know I need to pick my paint colors based on chapter design, but as far as black/white/metallics go, are there some general 'you should probably have these to do a good job' paints?

To add another onto the pile, what are your thoughts on primer? I've heard conflicting reports. And if yea, is there some sort of cheap knock off primer? $12 for Citadel can...I don't know if I can do it. O_O

Chozon1 wrote:Nice. Painting deadline gogogo. XD If you don't mind my asking, what are you heading down to St. Louis for? And are you going to get some ribs while there?

There is only one correct answer to that last part. >_>

A conference involving some of the medical related software I work with. Gotta learn their system and try and convince them to adapt it to ours. We'll see how that goes.

Chozon1 wrote: Hobby knife = eXacto knife? And how useful/necessary would you say a pair of clippers are, overall?

Overall, not hideously, but it's a lot safer to use cutters to get the thicker connections on the sprue than to use a hobby knife... which isn't an exacto knife. It's much smaller and sharper. Kinda like a scalpel.

Chozon1 wrote: I know I need to pick my paint colors based on chapter design, but as far as black/white/metallics go, are there some general 'you should probably have these to do a good job' paints?

So far the only really good metallic paints I've found are Vallejo. Games Workshop just re-did their whole line and I haven't trie dthe new ones yet so they might be good. Their regular colors are good, I just don't like the paint pots. I use a wet pallet so I prefer the squeeze bottles from Vallejo.

Chozon1 wrote: To add another onto the pile, what are your thoughts on primer? I've heard conflicting reports. And if yea, is there some sort of cheap knock off primer? $12 for Citadel can...I don't know if I can do it. O_O

Pfft. I don't buy Citadel primer. The can I used to prime the Thousand Sons I just posted pictures of was Krylon brand gray primer I got from Home Depot for a lot less than Citadel. I know some painters are kinda brand snobs when it comes to primer, or insist the only way to get a good prime coat is to use an airbrush, but we're not exactly talking about competition level painting here. I've had no problems with the cheap brands.

Color matters, though. Get a primer that goes well with your chapter colors. For example, if your marines are going to be a light color like white or yellow or something, get a white primer. If they'll be red, blue or something darker, you can go gray or black. Gray is usually a safe bet when unsure.

ArcticFox wrote:A conference involving some of the medical related software I work with. Gotta learn their system and try and convince them to adapt it to ours. We'll see how that goes.

Mm...fun? XD Is it something you're looking forward to, something you're dreading, or something in between? Business trips have always mystified me.

ArcticFox wrote:So far the only really good metallic paints I've found are Vallejo. Games Workshop just re-did their whole line and I haven't trie dthe new ones yet so they might be good. Their regular colors are good, I just don't like the paint pots. I use a wet pallet so I prefer the squeeze bottles from Vallejo.

Nice. I'd likely end up with Citadel paints, since I'm too impatient to order stuff off the internet. So mayhaps I'll be able to report on them for you. But what I was asking was, are there paint colors you would consider 'standard need' to anyone gearing up to paint models? Like black or white, or a metallic color (I've seen people painting spess mahrine bolters using boltgon silver, for example), or something else?

ArcticFox wrote:Pfft. I don't buy Citadel primer. The can I used to prime the Thousand Sons I just posted pictures of was Krylon brand gray primer I got from Home Depot for a lot less than Citadel. I know some painters are kinda brand snobs when it comes to primer, or insist the only way to get a good prime coat is to use an airbrush, but we're not exactly talking about competition level painting here. I've had no problems with the cheap brands.

Color matters, though. Get a primer that goes well with your chapter colors. For example, if your marines are going to be a light color like white or yellow or something, get a white primer. If they'll be red, blue or something darker, you can go gray or black. Gray is usually a safe bet when unsure.

Interesting...so I can just use standard spray can primer? Also, is it actually needed?

Chozon1 wrote: Mm...fun? XD Is it something you're looking forward to, something you're dreading, or something in between? Business trips have always mystified me.

Meh, it's something to do. My wife will be out of town visiting family during that same period so I'd otherwise be at home bored.

Chozon1 wrote: Nice. I'd likely end up with Citadel paints, since I'm too impatient to order stuff off the internet. So mayhaps I'll be able to report on them for you. But what I was asking was, are there paint colors you would consider 'standard need' to anyone gearing up to paint models? Like black or white, or a metallic color (I've seen people painting spess mahrine bolters using boltgon silver, for example), or something else?

Definitely black, and boltgun metal is a must have with marines. A nice way to make bolters look good real quick and easy is to paint them over with boltgun metal (or whatever the gunmetal color is called) then use black ink to wash the whole gun... then paint the raised and pointy areas again with the gunmetal color, then at the corners and points, put a but of lighter silver color. White is useful, depending on your color scheme. Gold is often used on the Aquila on the armor chestplate but silver is common too. Have you made a final decision on a Chapter color scheme?

ArcticFox wrote: Interesting...so I can just use standard spray can primer? Also, is it actually needed?

You sure can... and yes, it's a must have. Otherwise the paint won't adhere to the plastic very well and will tend to bead, and will rub off very easily.

ArcticFox wrote:Meh, it's something to do. My wife will be out of town visiting family during that same period so I'd otherwise be at home bored.

Good outlook, I 'spose. Though I typically enjoy being alone for awhile. How long are you going to be away? And what about those ribs? St. Louis is famous for them. XD

ArcticFox wrote:Definitely black, and boltgun metal is a must have with marines. A nice way to make bolters look good real quick and easy is to paint them over with boltgun metal (or whatever the gunmetal color is called) then use black ink to wash the whole gun... then paint the raised and pointy areas again with the gunmetal color, then at the corners and points, put a but of lighter silver color. White is useful, depending on your color scheme. Gold is often used on the Aquila on the armor chestplate but silver is common too. Have you made a final decision on a Chapter color scheme?

Hmm...Okeh, so black, white (maybe...but I think it'd be handy to have on hand so I can lighten paint colors), the gunmetal color, silver and gold (though I may just use the boltgun metal instead of silver), three (three right? I've been reading painting articles and that seems the recommended amount, but I don't know. ) chapter colors, and a can of primer (which, unless I definitely have a color scheme in mind, I'll probably take your advice and go gray). Sound right?

What is this...ink business? I've heard of them, and washes, but...is it sommat I'd need to buy, or can I just use the jars of ink I've got around the house?