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Re: Useless Christianity: Where to draw the line in charity
Posted: Fri Nov 15, 2013 11:58 pm
by JOJ650s
I do remember your rant,
and don't remember it being directed at anyone.
So I am pretty sure you weren't involved.
(Unless I am forgetting something.

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Re: Useless Christianity: Where to draw the line in charity
Posted: Sat Nov 16, 2013 12:11 am
by ArchAngel
I try not to rant on people, but I thought I had a couple choice words about the idea.
Re: Useless Christianity: Where to draw the line in charity
Posted: Sat Nov 16, 2013 3:35 am
by ChickenSoup
JOJ650s wrote:ChickenSoup wrote:And... last time we talked about the True Love Waits thing, it got modblocked for heresy. So there's that.
Oh, I remember that thread,
I am pretty sure it was locked due to some flaming at the end.
That was a minor reason. The flaming wasn't that big of a deal, but there started to be an uprising of rethinking against the established ideas of sexual purity and, well.
It's sort of like not working on a Sunday. If you're of a denomination that strongly opposes working on Sundays, wouldn't it be a little hypocritical to go out shopping on Sunday? Isn't that encouraging an act (people being at work) that you yourself believe to be a sin?
It's donating money to a charity, and there's a chance you could win money or a trip to a country of your choice. I think you can only buy one ticket, IIRC. Besides, the professors in question didn't say "but please go ahead and donate money to the organizations directly!", they just went on about how gambling was bad. THAT is Pharisaical.
Re: Useless Christianity: Where to draw the line in charity
Posted: Sat Nov 16, 2013 3:48 am
by JOJ650s
I don't mean to sound like I remember it perfectly,
but I am certain it was locked due to someone flaming,
As I do remember exactly who flamed and who was flamed, (Which I won't mention the names.

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and the moderator post that ended it with a lock.
(Which also said the reason was due to that someone flaming another user directly.)
Re: Useless Christianity: Where to draw the line in charity
Posted: Sat Nov 16, 2013 4:14 am
by ChickenSoup
JOJ650s wrote:I don't mean to sound like I remember it perfectly,
but I am certain it was locked due to someone flaming,
As I do remember exactly who flamed and who was flamed, (Which I won't mention the names.

)
and the moderator post that ended it with a lock.
(Which also said the reason was due to that someone flaming another user directly.)
Much
perceived flaming, yes, and the lock-er told the lock-ees what was what in the way of theology to have the last word.
Re: Useless Christianity: Where to draw the line in charity
Posted: Sat Nov 16, 2013 4:50 am
by JOJ650s
Hmmm... odd, I don't seem to recall that.

Well if you want, you can PM me the details.
Re: Useless Christianity: Where to draw the line in charity
Posted: Mon Nov 18, 2013 3:09 pm
by ArcticFox
ChickenSoup wrote:
It's donating money to a charity, and there's a chance you could win money or a trip to a country of your choice. I think you can only buy one ticket, IIRC. Besides, the professors in question didn't say "but please go ahead and donate money to the organizations directly!", they just went on about how gambling was bad. THAT is Pharisaical.
Maybe, but like I said for some people gambling is gambling, period... But I do agree they should have encouraged outright donation, like I said.
Re: Useless Christianity: Where to draw the line in charity
Posted: Mon Nov 18, 2013 7:02 pm
by ArchAngel
The email going around was pharisaical to a T. Obsessing over the legalism in morality, but ignoring actually helping people, and that's where your suggestion, Arctic, does a full dodge of that. It's a super classy way of handling the issue and you've kept what's important in sight.
The people who wrote that email seemed to have completely lost sight of the people the money was meant to help, leading to inadvertently urge people against it. Theology trumped helping people, and if nothing else resembled the Pharisees, it's that.
I find it interesting that you find gambling immoral, and with your permission, I'd like to start another thread about it. I'd like to explore it some more, as I've never seen a good defense on why gambling is wrong. I'm interested in your perspective on it, or anyone else who agrees with you on this.
Re: Useless Christianity: Where to draw the line in charity
Posted: Mon Nov 18, 2013 7:53 pm
by ArcticFox
Certainly don't need my permission, but I'll gladly participate, though I admit it's not one of my stronger issues.
Re: Useless Christianity: Where to draw the line in charity
Posted: Mon Nov 18, 2013 8:22 pm
by ChickenSoup
I'd be game for a gambling thread. It could open paths to such discussions as the relative morality of certain actions ("what is son for you isn't sin for me")
Re: Useless Christianity: Where to draw the line in charity
Posted: Mon Nov 18, 2013 9:19 pm
by ArchAngel
I'll post one up. Thought I'd ask instead of just calling you out into a debate.
Re: Useless Christianity: Where to draw the line in charity
Posted: Tue Nov 19, 2013 1:30 am
by ArcticFox
Thanks, I do appreciate that. I've been making an effort to avoid debates in general lately so thank you.
Re: Useless Christianity: Where to draw the line in charity
Posted: Tue Nov 19, 2013 7:31 am
by ChickenSoup
Been think' 'bout that bloggums I mentioned earlier.
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