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Re: Building a Computer
Posted: Fri Apr 27, 2012 6:00 pm
by LegoFan560
Ok, that helps. If I install something on my SSD, can I later move it to an HDD if I find I want to use the space for something else?
When it's done, I'll try it with our extra HDMI and let you know what happens. Thank you for all your help!
Re: Building a Computer
Posted: Fri Apr 27, 2012 7:18 pm
by ccgr
Yes you can move stuff between drives.
Re: Building a Computer
Posted: Fri Apr 27, 2012 8:37 pm
by ArchAngel
You might have to reinstall it, however. But you can manually transfer any saved games or player profiles if they aren't stored in your documents folder, so you won't lose anything.
Also, if you map your my documents folders(my pictures/downloads/etc) on your HDD, it'll help save SSD space. I did that personally, and it's piece of cake.
Re: Building a Computer
Posted: Sun Apr 29, 2012 12:40 am
by Syxth
Crucial is what I have in mine so I would recommend them. I've had my pc for 6 months maybe now? And no problems with it.
Re: Building a Computer
Posted: Sun Apr 29, 2012 8:37 pm
by LegoFan560
Thanks guys! What do you do about Wireless internet? Do you get a USB drive, or get something with it built-in? What would it be built-in to?
Also, are USB ports a part of the case, or do I have to purchase them separately?
Re: Building a Computer
Posted: Sun Apr 29, 2012 11:25 pm
by ccgr
I don't have wireless in my desktop but if I did I would probably put in a PCI card
Re: Building a Computer
Posted: Mon Apr 30, 2012 3:38 pm
by LegoFan560
Ok. Any thoughts on what kinds are the best?
Do you use a cable instead? The computer is probably going to end up in the basement, so I'm not sure if a wire would work.
Re: Building a Computer
Posted: Mon Apr 30, 2012 4:45 pm
by ccgr
yeah I hardware my network connection. As for wireless, what kind of wireless router do you have?
Re: Building a Computer
Posted: Mon Apr 30, 2012 4:49 pm
by LegoFan560
Linksys router by Cisco. Our desktop currently uses a Cisco external USB wireless receiver.
Re: Building a Computer
Posted: Mon Apr 30, 2012 5:06 pm
by ArchAngel
USB ports are actually part of the Mother board, but the case should have extra on it that will plug into the motherboard itself, so find one that's convenient for you.
If you're looking to save money and you already have the usb adapter, just use that.
I think it's really a matter of preference. I prefer the internal card because it's sleeker, less stuff dangling out there, and in my mind, it's more integrated. But the adapters let you switch it between machines (I have a some and they're useful) and with a usb extension cable, you can reposition it for a better signal.
I can't honestly say that an internal card preforms better, though. I just want to believe it does
Wired connections are ideal; more stable, more secure and considerably faster. But, it's not always a luxury you can get.
As for your router, is it G? N?
Re: Building a Computer
Posted: Mon Apr 30, 2012 5:15 pm
by LegoFan560
Wouldn't a USB port on the Motherboard have to be accessed by opening the case?
I'm hoping I can get a case for free from someone we know, or maybe get something cheap on Craigslist - is that possible, or do I need something nice to allow for the heat generated by the newer, more powerful parts?
Depending on the number of USB ports I end up with, I'll probably go with whichever wireless option is cheaper. Or, I might try to run a cable through the ductwork into the office where the router is.
The router is N.
Edit: What are some good standard hard drive manufacturers?
Re: Building a Computer
Posted: Mon Apr 30, 2012 5:36 pm
by ArchAngel
Wouldn't a USB port on the Motherboard have to be accessed by opening the case?
If you look at the back of your desktop, you'll see a bunch of ports, including usb ports, where the all the cables go into. That's one end of the motherboard. Most of the cards you put in will have a part that shows on that back panel so you can plug things into it.
I'm hoping I can get a case for free from someone we know, or maybe get something cheap on Craigslist - is that possible, or do I need something nice to allow for the heat generated by the newer, more powerful parts?
I recommend full size towers, personally, since they offer a lot of room for both ventilation and ease of maintenance. And they look pretty intimdating, too.

You're right to be concerned with heat. It's the killer of electronics. If the case looks like it's too closed off, not enough/not big enough fans or too small, pass it up.
CCGR might be able to find you a good deal on a sweet case.
Depending on the number of USB ports I end up with, I'll probably go with whichever wireless option is cheaper. Or, I might try to run a cable through the ductwork into the office where the router is.
Don't worry about usb ports. You'll have plenty, and if you need more, there are some cheap options of usb hubs.
I personally would use wireless than snake a cable through the vents, but that's me.
The router is N.
Oh good. Be sure to get a Wireless N card/dongle, then.
Edit: What are some good standard hard drive manufacturers?
For disc drives, Western Digital and Seagate are the good ones, imo. Some people sway one way or the other.
For Solid State, OCZ, Kingston and Crucial.
Those would be my choices.
Re: Building a Computer
Posted: Mon Apr 30, 2012 8:12 pm
by LegoFan560
ArchAngel wrote:If you look at the back of your desktop, you'll see a bunch of ports, including usb ports, where the all the cables go into. That's one end of the motherboard. Most of the cards you put in will have a part that shows on that back panel so you can plug things into it.
Ok, thank you.
ArchAngel wrote:LegoFan560 wrote:I'm hoping I can get a case for free from someone we know, or maybe get something cheap on Craigslist - is that possible, or do I need something nice to allow for the heat generated by the newer, more powerful parts?
I recommend full size towers, personally, since they offer a lot of room for both ventilation and ease of maintenance. And they look pretty intimdating, too.

You're right to be concerned with heat. It's the killer of electronics. If the case looks like it's too closed off, not enough/not big enough fans or too small, pass it up.
CCGR might be able to find you a good deal on a sweet case.
I'll see what free towers are available.

Would it be possible to not use a case? Wouldn't really have worry about heat, in that case, right? Thanks!
ArchAngel wrote:Don't worry about usb ports. You'll have plenty, and if you need more, there are some cheap options of usb hubs.
I personally would use wireless than snake a cable through the vents, but that's me.
Ok. I think we figured out a way to get internet down there via cable pretty easily.
ArchAngel wrote:Oh good. Be sure to get a Wireless N card/dongle, then.
Ok.
ArchAngel wrote:For disc drives, Western Digital and Seagate are the good ones, imo. Some people sway one way or the other.
For Solid State, OCZ, Kingston and Crucial.
Those would be my choices.
I think I'm going to get a Crucial SSD. Thanks!
Re: Building a Computer
Posted: Mon Apr 30, 2012 8:18 pm
by ArchAngel
Good choice on the Crucial

The M4 has been doing me well.
A case is more than just a box, it also provides the frame for all the parts to bolt into. It's not technically necessary, but it keeps everything secure, in a nice, protected shell while also providing good airflow to keep everything cool. I don't recommend just leaving the parts hanging around, as the heat might damage things around them, and also the delicate circuitry might get damaged itself. You'd also need a way to get some airflow moving over the chips.
For what the case provides, it's worth the money. And besides, why would you want to pass up some cool LEDs?
Re: Building a Computer
Posted: Mon Apr 30, 2012 8:26 pm
by ccgr
I test motherboards etc without a case but it requires a screw driver to make the connection to power on the system...is that what you really want? This is the case I'm using:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 6811103011
Only go this crazy if you plan on over clocking