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Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2007 3:05 pm
by Obibear
iamscott wrote:Here's the beauty of Collateral, and indeed, all Michael Mann movies: they are slow and drawn out for a reason. They build character, and through that, relationships with the audience, through the quiet and the music and everything, and then he decimates it with brutal, intense violence. The movie in question is really a movie about LA, as is Heat. So... it really just conveys the serenity of a chaotic city.

Obi, as I am a serious student of film (if you read my writing, most of it is quite cinematic, full of quick cuts), I can only say that if you do not appreciate Collateral for what it is, then you don't know what you're missing.
Honestly, I don't view Collateral as a movie about L.A. To me, it's a character development movie. There's a cab driver who's had a plan to do something big for twelve years; never had the guts to go out and actually do it. Then, he has the bad luck to get a hitman in his cab. Bit by bit through his conversations with Vincent, he realizes that he's been putting everything off and fooling himself all these years.

Another thing that builds over the course of the film is his realization that he has a choice. Ever since the beginning, Vincent is telling him, "Take comfort in the knowledge that you never had a choice," "When did any of this become a negotiation." But Max does has a choice, always has, and at the end makes a choice to stop it. It's amazing to watch it all build up until he finally reaches his breaking point.

I know my thoughts are a bit jumbled, but that's the way I see the film. And the way I look at it, I think it's one of the greatest movies ever made.

Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2007 3:36 pm
by the_wolfs_howl
Barbie: Island Princess. Don't laugh. The singing was good.

Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2007 7:14 pm
by Drewsov
Obigone wrote:
iamscott wrote:Here's the beauty of Collateral, and indeed, all Michael Mann movies: they are slow and drawn out for a reason. They build character, and through that, relationships with the audience, through the quiet and the music and everything, and then he decimates it with brutal, intense violence. The movie in question is really a movie about LA, as is Heat. So... it really just conveys the serenity of a chaotic city.

Obi, as I am a serious student of film (if you read my writing, most of it is quite cinematic, full of quick cuts), I can only say that if you do not appreciate Collateral for what it is, then you don't know what you're missing.
Honestly, I don't view Collateral as a movie about L.A. To me, it's a character development movie. There's a cab driver who's had a plan to do something big for twelve years; never had the guts to go out and actually do it. Then, he has the bad luck to get a hitman in his cab. Bit by bit through his conversations with Vincent, he realizes that he's been putting everything off and fooling himself all these years.

Another thing that builds over the course of the film is his realization that he has a choice. Ever since the beginning, Vincent is telling him, "Take comfort in the knowledge that you never had a choice," "When did any of this become a negotiation." But Max does has a choice, always has, and at the end makes a choice to stop it. It's amazing to watch it all build up until he finally reaches his breaking point.

I know my thoughts are a bit jumbled, but that's the way I see the film. And the way I look at it, I think it's one of the greatest movies ever made.
It is that first. And then it is of LA.

CK... I'll pm you.

Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2007 7:41 pm
by Deepfreeze32
Saints and Soliders. Great movie, I HIGHLY recommend it! :D

Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2007 2:44 pm
by ccgr
POTC 3, good movie ....1 day in 10 years would be tough....

Posted: Sun Dec 09, 2007 1:41 pm
by TripExistence
Chill Factor - Amusing forgettable movie.

Fun With Dick and Jane - See above.

Posted: Sun Dec 09, 2007 6:54 pm
by Drewsov
Dead Ringers--Very creepy, excellent performances across the board.

Wolf--Okay, but I fell asleep in the middle of it.

Posted: Mon Dec 10, 2007 2:00 am
by airpa
I, robot- great movie and will smith is not serius that much in it until the invasion

Posted: Mon Dec 10, 2007 3:15 am
by Obibear
I Now Pronounce You Chuck and Larry - Funny, though not quite as funny as it could have been.

Posted: Mon Dec 10, 2007 8:37 am
by the_wolfs_howl
End of the Spear.

FINALLY I get to see it! It's a simply amazing movie, I think. I really enjoyed it, even though the borrowed DVD got stuck in several places. Everyone was tearing up in various parts *sniff* Whoever did Mincayani is an amazing actor. And I love the tribal language! So cool! ^_^ (Can you say "Aenomenani" three times really fast?)

Posted: Mon Dec 10, 2007 11:49 pm
by Obibear
The Bourne Supremacy - Seeing this again made me change my mind and decide that it's just as good as the first and third film. Behind the Lord of the Rings, the Bourne movies make up my all time favorite movie trilogy.

Posted: Tue Dec 11, 2007 12:22 am
by TripExistence
I thought Supremacy was too similar to the first film, but whatever.

The second half of Dumb and Dumber. Call me dumb, but I haven't laughed that much in a movie for a very long time.

Posted: Tue Dec 11, 2007 4:57 am
by Deepfreeze32
20,000 Leagues under the sea(1954 version).

Wow, just wow. They messed up the ending, but otherwise a great movie!

Posted: Sat Dec 15, 2007 7:06 pm
by TrigunX89
Hot Rod - Hilarious movie. Not enough people have seen it.

Posted: Sat Dec 15, 2007 8:33 pm
by DarthDapor
TrigunX89 wrote:Hot Rod - Hilarious movie. Not enough people have seen it.
all too true my friend....


I Am LEGEND!!!!!! Awesome!!! 8)