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Thoughts on Kantai Collection?

Postby 3slsgmm » Fri Jun 23, 2017 11:35 pm

New user here. I've played collection games similar to Kantai Collection for a couple of years, and I'm hoping to get a Christian perspective of such games, particularly about whether games like these are ones that I should avoid. Any thoughts?

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Re: Thoughts on Kantai Collection?

Postby ZanySauce » Sun Jun 25, 2017 10:31 am

Hmm... nope never heard of it. Unfortunately I have not played any games like it either, however there may be someone else on the website that might have.
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Re: Thoughts on Kantai Collection?

Postby Sstavix » Sun Jun 25, 2017 2:35 pm

I've never heard of them either. Do you have examples, or a link you can share?

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Re: Thoughts on Kantai Collection?

Postby 3slsgmm » Mon Jun 26, 2017 11:23 am

Thanks for the replies so far! :)

The genre of collection games I'm referring to usually feature anthropomorphised objects, such as guns, ships, planes, swords, etc. Kantai Collection features WWII ships drawn as girls, with designs being inspired by the characteristics of the original ships. For example, destroyers are drawn as primary school girls, while aircraft carriers are drawn as girls in their 20's. New shipgirls can be obtained through drops after winning battles, or through construction.

For example, Japanese aircraft carrier Kaga looks like this:
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Kaga's design is one of the more presentable ones, but some of the other designs expose more skin, with some wearing two-piece swimsuits and such. There is no explicit nudity in the game, however.

The player forms fleets with up to 6 ships each and sends them to sea battles, which grant exp that allows the ships to level up.

Here's the questionable part. If a shipgirl takes too much damage during the battle, her damaged art shows up, such as the following for Kaga:
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Again, Kaga's damaged art is one of the cleaner ones. Some of the other designs show NSFW clothing damage, but there is still no explicit nudity (i.e: there may be thighs or cleavage but no nipples).

Not all collection games feature the damage art, and not all feature girls. For example, one of the Chinese games involving sword collection has an all-male character list, but I don't play those ones:
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So I'd like to get some thoughts about games like these. Are they harmless or stumbling blocks? For a long time I've tried to rationalise it away by saying that it doesn't constitute pornography since there's no explicit nudity in it, but I know that the sin lies in the lust that it generates, even if the material itself isn't explicit, and I admit that there have been times when I've become aroused while playing the game.

I've been thinking of deleting it, and though it's quite hard to let go of it since I've built up my account for a couple of years, I'm confident that I can walk away from it if the game is one that I should not be playing.

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Re: Thoughts on Kantai Collection?

Postby ccgr » Mon Jun 26, 2017 12:06 pm

If the game is arousing you then it's best deleted in my opinion

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Re: Thoughts on Kantai Collection?

Postby ZanySauce » Mon Jun 26, 2017 3:06 pm

Now that you explain it, I remember that I actually have heard of this.

However, as for wether or not the game's content is ok, you are not alone. I often have doubts as to whether or not something I am viewing is ok. What is considered appropriate in entertainment is a debate as old as entertainment itself.

I can't speak for Kantai, but I have through the understanding God has given me am fully convinced that anime and stuff like that's not porn is not bad in and of itself. However, that doesn't mean that it can't be sunful.

I have that thing that I know makes God jealous, but I do whatever I can to convince myself that it's fine and not sinful. I fall back onto it when I am tired tempted or have problems. For me it's blasphemous livestreamers, for you it's Kantai.

What I find that helps is to replace it with something else. It's hard, but if your heart seeks God it's never impossible. I started reading books and playing games for myself instead of watching other's commentary. Maybe you can replace it with a different game or hobby, or with watching anime that doesn't make you feel guilty (I have a freind who watches Naruto and others with occasional "content", and he is one of the best Christians I have ever met.)

If you have been convinced something us fine before but are doubting now there is probably a reason for it. It usually doesn't go the other way around, unless God is working tword a change.

I hope this helped! Remember the most important thing is that you are trying to please God in what you do!
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