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Re: Minecraft - Does God Still Love Griefers?

Postby Bruce_Campbell » Wed Jul 11, 2012 12:17 am

When Christ commanded that we should forgive one another 'seventy times seven', it was in response to a scenario in which one disciple were to forgive another disciple. In essence, fellow Believers are to offer unrestricted and unlimited forgiveness to one another.

Christ did not, however, indicate how many times we are to forgive NON-Believers. Earlier in the lesson, he said to 'turn the other cheek.' The human body has a very finite and limited number of cheeks to be turned.

A fellow Christian should be forgiven always. Others? You may give then a second chance, and then thats it. At least that is my interpretation. It would have been very simple for Christ to say, "oh you should always forgive people over and over again without limit" but he did not say that.

He also did not say that forgiveness must be given with trust: you can forgive, but you are not required to forget.

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Re: Minecraft - Does God Still Love Griefers?

Postby ArcticFox » Wed Jul 11, 2012 1:21 pm

When Christ commanded that we should forgive one another 'seventy times seven', it was in response to a scenario in which one disciple were to forgive another disciple. In essence, fellow Believers are to offer unrestricted and unlimited forgiveness to one another.

Christ did not, however, indicate how many times we are to forgive NON-Believers. Earlier in the lesson, he said to 'turn the other cheek.' The human body has a very finite and limited number of cheeks to be turned.
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But I have to disagree with you very strongly here. Bruce is right to point out this is exactly the kind of thinking that drives a wedge between Christians and those they interact with. It's a sort of contradiction because ideally fellow Christians would require forgiveness less often than those who don't follow Christ's teachings.

The verse you referenced is Matthew 18:22, but if you go on and read the rest of the chapter, Jesus sets up an analogy of a master who forgave the debt of a servant, but then the servant went out and refused to forgive the debt of another man who asked it of him, and so the master became angry and forced the servant to repay him after all.

Nowhere in that parable does it suggest that the rules are different for some than for others.
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Re: Minecraft - Does God Still Love Griefers?

Postby Epicness23 » Sun Jul 15, 2012 9:24 am

The prayer of the lord states: "forgive us our sins as we forgive those who sin against us."
This means that we should forgive infinitely, however, it is very clear that trust is not required after the said forgiveness. Bob is wrong; Ihasgaming and all the others are to be forgiven, but it's more logical that we should really just walk away from them. Or in this case: ban them.

P.S. I don't mean ban Bruce, I mean ban those who deserve it.
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Re: Minecraft - Does God Still Love Griefers?

Postby Bmanhill » Mon Jul 16, 2012 6:42 am

Sure, of course he does.

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Re: Minecraft - Does God Still Love Griefers?

Postby ccgr » Mon Jul 16, 2012 1:25 pm

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Re: Minecraft - Does God Still Love Griefers?

Postby Emwok » Mon Jul 23, 2012 12:42 pm

Lol!! I think I've seen at least one other person with that one....
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Re: Minecraft - Does God Still Love Griefers?

Postby ChickenSoup » Mon Jul 23, 2012 8:28 pm

When Christ commanded that we should forgive one another 'seventy times seven', it was in response to a scenario in which one disciple were to forgive another disciple. In essence, fellow Believers are to offer unrestricted and unlimited forgiveness to one another.

Christ did not, however, indicate how many times we are to forgive NON-Believers. Earlier in the lesson, he said to 'turn the other cheek.' The human body has a very finite and limited number of cheeks to be turned.

A fellow Christian should be forgiven always. Others? You may give then a second chance, and then thats it. At least that is my interpretation. It would have been very simple for Christ to say, "oh you should always forgive people over and over again without limit" but he did not say that.
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Re: Minecraft - Does God Still Love Griefers?

Postby JOJ650s » Mon Jul 23, 2012 11:23 pm

I guess he forgot these verses...


Mat 6:14 "If you forgive those who sin against you, your heavenly Father will forgive you.

Mat 6:15 But if you refuse to forgive others, your Father will not forgive your sins.
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Re: Minecraft - Does God Still Love Griefers?

Postby lego_world » Fri Oct 20, 2017 1:25 am

So forgive griefers... and hackers and people.

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Re: Minecraft - Does God Still Love Griefers?

Postby KingMerek_ » Fri Oct 20, 2017 1:32 am

Yup I think he dose (that doesn't mean I want to play with them) let's hope that they change and stop grefing :)


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