Pledge of Allegiance

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Re: Pledge of Allegiance

Postby ArchAngel » Wed Oct 22, 2014 3:30 am

I don't know... sounds dubious. Why would a set of ideals require a pledge of allegiance? Especially when those ideals should be centered around freedom?
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Re: Pledge of Allegiance

Postby ArcticFox » Wed Oct 22, 2014 2:03 pm

I seriously doubt the people who originally came up with the idea thought it through to that level.
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Re: Pledge of Allegiance

Postby ArchAngel » Wed Oct 22, 2014 5:01 pm

The man who wrote it, Francis Bellamy, was a socialist. I don't mean that in some derogatory term, but he might not view the government in the same way you and I do.

It was also for a campaign to sell flags to schools. It's not like he was penning founding documents for our country.

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Mary, if I can instill into the minds of our American youth a love for their country and the principles on which it was founded, and create in them an ambition to carry on with the ideals which the early founders wrote into The Constitution, I shall not have lived in vain.
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Re: Pledge of Allegiance

Postby ArcticFox » Wed Oct 22, 2014 5:13 pm

That's really an interesting quote, considering the source. I like it.
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Re: Pledge of Allegiance

Postby TSTC2011 » Tue Dec 09, 2014 10:42 pm

agreed with ccgr's original post. I think it would have more meaning if it was to the country and not to the flag. It does seem kind of empty with it being a piece of cloth but I guess it was originally supposed to just be a representative of the country but I think it has lost its meaning


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