Magic minecraft Christians post 2
Posted: Fri Feb 05, 2016 9:48 pm
Those were some great responses from everyone and I read them all. And rather than try to make a reply to each persons comments , which i find frustrating and schismatic to the dialogue: Let's regroup and look at some biblical points. Remember now i PLAY the game, but wish i could have been done with a science theme for upgrading tools and other things to deal with the " aliens" lol. Seriously I would LOVE to see a plugin that would convert all these things to a science fiction theme. Why not take it into space? 1) The " violence" is minimal : gore, blood, graphic content. I choose to never play PVP. The killing of animals is a choice ( eating meat) and is very reality oriented to real life. There is just too much creative potential and potential to teach Christian community and helping here. 2) How many of you have read clear through the entire ending story and been able to catalog the many religious and occultic and new age themes interwoven therein ? its actually quite deep and quite ungodly in that content. 3) a] What DOES God say about the occult magic and just how far does GOD wish us to go? b] What DO we need to know about the devils devices? And, c] Would not a thorough knowledge of God's ways and word automatically protect us from the devils devices?
Now form some verses, which BTW i found sadly lacking in all your replies to the first post on this subject. 2Co 6:14-18 Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness? (15) And what concord hath Christ with Belial? or what part hath he that believeth with an infidel? (16) And what agreement hath the temple of God with idols? for ye are the temple of the living God; as God hath said, I will dwell in them, and walk in them; and I will be their God, and they shall be my people. (17) Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord, and touch not the unclean thing; and I will receive you, (18) And will be a Father unto you, and ye shall be my sons and daughters, saith the Lord Almighty. This web site has a lot of relevant ones and some not so relevant ( go figure) https://www.openbible.info/topics/witchcraft But THIS web site gets more to the point on how God sees this: http://biblereasons.com/witchcraft/ And this site makes a strong case against it to> http://christiananswers.net/q-eden/edn-occult.html PLEASE READ THE WEBSITES, they are not that long!
(17) Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord, and touch not the unclean thing; and I will receive you,
SO: what is my response to this? (Hoping for the sci fi plug in soonest lol ) I realize that this is a game , but it like so much we see today is a "gateway drug", to misuse that term slightly, for the ungrounded, uneducated in scriptures. Call it a baby step, a little compromise, a "little fox that destroys the vine" [song of solomon 2:15). IF we as Christians do not dismiss it out of hand and acknowledge it we are then protected from its effectsto a great degree. Heb_5:14 But strong meat belongeth to them that are of full age, even those who by reason of use have their senses exercised to discern both good and evil. We are under grace, and have liberty BUT: 1Co_8:9 But take heed lest by any means this liberty of yours become a stumblingblock to them that are weak. Gal_5:13 For, brethren, ye have been called unto liberty; only use not liberty for an occasion to the flesh, but by love serve one another. And: 1Co 10:26-33 For the earth is the Lord's, and the fulness thereof. (27) If any of them that believe not bid you to a feast, and ye be disposed to go; whatsoever is set before you, eat, asking no question for conscience sake. (28) But if any man say unto you, This is offered in sacrifice unto idols, eat not for his sake that shewed it, and for conscience sake: for the earth is the Lord's, and the fulness thereof: (29) Conscience, I say, not thine own, but of the other: for why is my liberty judged of another man's conscience? (30) For if I by grace be a partaker, why am I evil spoken of for that for which I give thanks? (31) Whether therefore ye eat, or drink, or whatsoever ye do, do all to the glory of God. (32) Give none offence, neither to the Jews, nor to the Gentiles, nor to the church of God: (33) Even as I please all men in all things, not seeking mine own profit, but the profit of many, that they may be saved.
I am here because Christians are here, a game cannot defile me anyone more than meat offered to Idols can. ( no imputed uncleanness inherent in things) But only if we use this as an occasion to discuss these things in the light of Christ ( NOT dismiss them) can we gain benefit in Christ from them.
When I play, i dismiss the magic and refer to the old adage by Arthur C. Clark ( 2001 a space oddessy) : Any sufficiently advanced science tech, would appear as "magic" to a primitive culture." more or less lol. Not that I like Clarke, he was an anti christian bigot and fool by biblical definition, but the saying has merit apart from the monkey's descendant who spoke it.
lets NOT dismiss this issue as trivial! But let us use wisdom and knowledge and the right dividing of Gods word to address is properly.. And GET busy with that plugin!
bro John
Now form some verses, which BTW i found sadly lacking in all your replies to the first post on this subject. 2Co 6:14-18 Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness? (15) And what concord hath Christ with Belial? or what part hath he that believeth with an infidel? (16) And what agreement hath the temple of God with idols? for ye are the temple of the living God; as God hath said, I will dwell in them, and walk in them; and I will be their God, and they shall be my people. (17) Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord, and touch not the unclean thing; and I will receive you, (18) And will be a Father unto you, and ye shall be my sons and daughters, saith the Lord Almighty. This web site has a lot of relevant ones and some not so relevant ( go figure) https://www.openbible.info/topics/witchcraft But THIS web site gets more to the point on how God sees this: http://biblereasons.com/witchcraft/ And this site makes a strong case against it to> http://christiananswers.net/q-eden/edn-occult.html PLEASE READ THE WEBSITES, they are not that long!
(17) Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord, and touch not the unclean thing; and I will receive you,
SO: what is my response to this? (Hoping for the sci fi plug in soonest lol ) I realize that this is a game , but it like so much we see today is a "gateway drug", to misuse that term slightly, for the ungrounded, uneducated in scriptures. Call it a baby step, a little compromise, a "little fox that destroys the vine" [song of solomon 2:15). IF we as Christians do not dismiss it out of hand and acknowledge it we are then protected from its effectsto a great degree. Heb_5:14 But strong meat belongeth to them that are of full age, even those who by reason of use have their senses exercised to discern both good and evil. We are under grace, and have liberty BUT: 1Co_8:9 But take heed lest by any means this liberty of yours become a stumblingblock to them that are weak. Gal_5:13 For, brethren, ye have been called unto liberty; only use not liberty for an occasion to the flesh, but by love serve one another. And: 1Co 10:26-33 For the earth is the Lord's, and the fulness thereof. (27) If any of them that believe not bid you to a feast, and ye be disposed to go; whatsoever is set before you, eat, asking no question for conscience sake. (28) But if any man say unto you, This is offered in sacrifice unto idols, eat not for his sake that shewed it, and for conscience sake: for the earth is the Lord's, and the fulness thereof: (29) Conscience, I say, not thine own, but of the other: for why is my liberty judged of another man's conscience? (30) For if I by grace be a partaker, why am I evil spoken of for that for which I give thanks? (31) Whether therefore ye eat, or drink, or whatsoever ye do, do all to the glory of God. (32) Give none offence, neither to the Jews, nor to the Gentiles, nor to the church of God: (33) Even as I please all men in all things, not seeking mine own profit, but the profit of many, that they may be saved.
I am here because Christians are here, a game cannot defile me anyone more than meat offered to Idols can. ( no imputed uncleanness inherent in things) But only if we use this as an occasion to discuss these things in the light of Christ ( NOT dismiss them) can we gain benefit in Christ from them.
When I play, i dismiss the magic and refer to the old adage by Arthur C. Clark ( 2001 a space oddessy) : Any sufficiently advanced science tech, would appear as "magic" to a primitive culture." more or less lol. Not that I like Clarke, he was an anti christian bigot and fool by biblical definition, but the saying has merit apart from the monkey's descendant who spoke it.
lets NOT dismiss this issue as trivial! But let us use wisdom and knowledge and the right dividing of Gods word to address is properly.. And GET busy with that plugin!
bro John