The undead are intelligent enough to take care of themselves. But are you insinuating that the unborn don't have rights because you don't consider them to be human?The unborn don't have rights, much like the undead.
There, fixed tat for ya, broAm I calling for a ban on abortions? Not at this point, no. What I do want is for the unborn children to be seen for what they are - human beings.
So where do you feel rights for the born come from?The unborn don't have rights,
This is a bit of a tired argument. Because there can be lots of people (including myself) that hate both abortion AND war.Nobody is campaigning to ban head-shots either.
So you don't view "fetuses" as human beings, even though they have the potential to grow into human beings.You know, you call them "children" when they're actually "fetuses".
"Children" makes people think of happy little babies, so it's easier to claim that they shouldn't be aborted, or brutally executed - before they've ever tasted food, like mashed carrots or baby peas. Even serial killers get a last meal! Oh the humanity! But they're not children.
This whole topic is about the gruesomeness of a medical procedure, and you and I will never agree because you think fetuses are people and I don't. I also don't believe that America's doctors are a bunch of heartless murderers.
I think you're preaching to the choir, dude. I don't vote for grumpy old guys and they still get elected.It irritates me to no end when people keep complaining about their government, but when election time comes along, they vote in the same people who created the problems they're complaining about. Tired of being represented by "grumpy old white guys?" Then stop voting for "grumpy old white guys!"
Well, I mean, yeah, once it doesn't look like a salamander But seriously, an acorn isn't a tree, you know? A sapling is, technically, but a shoot under the ground isn't. ...let's not get too wrapped up in the metaphor, it isn't perfect, but where do you draw the line? I'm not asking so I can contest your belief, I'm asking so I know what you believe. Is it at conception?That's the thing, moral bankruptcy is exactly what it takes to willfully pretend and unborn baby is not a human being.
This is really a good and reasonable question, because if nothing else, it represents an effort to get away from the rhetoric and seriously look at it constructively.Now, like C$ said, an acorn isn't an oak tree, so at what point are we saying life begins?
Classic Alinskyite tactic here; if you're losing the argument - even if the opposition is right - resort to insults and belittling the opponent to try to bully a win. Thing is, I think most of us here are too intelligent to fall for this. If you have nothing intelligent to contribute, feel free to sit down.It's a good argument, but you're talking to people whose views on abortion are more regressive than Iranian law.
BOOM. Godwin.The Nazis did it to millions.
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