So, what about the Jewish people?

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So, what about the Jewish people?

Postby Sacntus_Incendia » Sat Jun 21, 2014 1:07 am

Hey guys! I have a question to throw out there. I know that God's salvation applies to all of humanity, but is there any scripture in regards to the future of Jews as a people and nation and their relevance to God's plan? Is there anything specific for them as God's original people or are they just kind of free floating now, disconnected unless saved? I'd enjoy some education on this subject :)

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Re: So, what about the Jewish people?

Postby Sstavix » Sat Jun 21, 2014 3:44 am

Since Bruce has got me on a "let's post about the LDS beliefs" kick tonight, I'll go ahead and provide that perspective.

The LDS vision of the afterlife is actually one of the neatest things that I like about the church. Basically, since we do have a kind and loving Heavenly Father, there will be a place for nearly everyone in heaven. Jewish, atheist, Buddhist, Muslim... basically everyone except those who have learned the truth about Heavenly Father and then deliberately sets out to disable His plans or destroy His kingdom.

Now there are different degrees of Heaven based upon whether someone is a Christian or not, but then we're getting a bit more complicated and deeper into the LDS faith. If you're so inclined, you can read about it here. But short answer, yes, Jewish people get to go to Heaven, too. :)

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Re: So, what about the Jewish people?

Postby ccgr » Sat Jun 21, 2014 2:20 pm

Since the messiah came the same rules apply to the Jews these days. They have to believe in Christ as he is the mediator between God and mankind. Sadly, many Jews don't accept Christ as their savior and are still looking for for their messiah.

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Re: So, what about the Jewish people?

Postby Sacntus_Incendia » Sun Jun 22, 2014 2:00 am

Okay. I get that the rules are the same for them. So there's no scripture regarding the House of Israel specifically? I guess the main curiosity of this question is the rebirth of Israel as a nation in the middle east. Is that foretold somewhere in scripture?

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Re: So, what about the Jewish people?

Postby selderane » Wed Jun 25, 2014 10:47 am

Okay. I get that the rules are the same for them. So there's no scripture regarding the House of Israel specifically? I guess the main curiosity of this question is the rebirth of Israel as a nation in the middle east. Is that foretold somewhere in scripture?
There's Scripture saying it would happen, but not when. A quick Google search brought up this site that talks about the relevant prophesies.

And Yahweh still has plans for Israel. It's true that without Yeshua they are not saved, but they are still His children. The saved come into Israel after all. The Church did not replace them.
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Re: So, what about the Jewish people?

Postby LAVA89 » Wed Jun 25, 2014 11:44 pm

Hey guys! I have a question to throw out there. I know that God's salvation applies to all of humanity, but is there any scripture in regards to the future of Jews as a people and nation and their relevance to God's plan? Is there anything specific for them as God's original people or are they just kind of free floating now, disconnected unless saved? I'd enjoy some education on this subject :)
I guess what you have to ask is, is there a promise of heaven in the Old Testament? (Pre-Christ's earthly emergence \ birth)

I have yet to find any and prophecies about Christ's emergence don't count.

So if that's the case, then I would say that there's no exception for people outside of acceptance of Christ.

As far as them as people and part of God's plan. I would say that Israel and the Jewish people are very important for the end time prophecies.

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Re: So, what about the Jewish people?

Postby MrKanister » Thu Jul 24, 2014 6:57 pm

Well, there is no way beside Christ, but the Jewish People are Gods chosen one - Romans 11,2 ist very clear in that Point. I think they need Jesus, because there is no other way (he is the way, the truth and the light), but they are also closer than any other to gods heart.


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