you communicated pretty terribly, so, yes, niceNo, I understand the power of music and appreciate it. What I don't appreciate is, you're the one who jumped on me saying "Just because it's a musical doesn't mean that it can't be dramatic and emotionally powerful. and have i heard of sweeny todd ?" lol, very nice.
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I'm so confused.
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Supern0va wrote:Huh ?? Most of what I was saying earlier is praising the earlier movie for producing valuable themes and roles played by a protagonist that most "heroic" movies today don't come close to it. that's all.TripExistence wrote:Spoiler:
i said I enjoy broadway musicals -phantom of the opera, etc. I'm a person who enjoys ballet, opera and at the same time, i can say I've watched Rambo IV and I enjoyed it.
And you think I have this misconception that music is lame ???? lol.
No, I understand the power of music and appreciate it. What I don't appreciate is, you're the one who jumped on me saying "Just because it's a musical doesn't mean that it can't be dramatic and emotionally powerful. and have i heard of sweeny todd ?" lol, very nice.
Sweeney Todd is not a horror movie, it is a "Dark" themed musical and its violence is meant to portray some drama, tragedy and serial mind of his. Watching real neck cutting is the terrorist sawing off the soldier's head in real life with a blunt instrument.
Well, let me ask you this question. What if Every, and I mean Every movie in the world becomes a Musical ? Didn't you said music does not take away its tragedy and emotional trial ? Should James Bond be a musical ?
Whatever your answer is. LikeWise, I was expecting this movie to Not to be one.
Hence the reason I wasn't so keen on watching it but even though it is, I'm not saying, "it sucks", I would enjoy it. Never in all my post have I said, oh music, singing, dancing, is terrible ..... I love musicals myself. So, I don't think you have problem with that, do you ?
Even Lord of the Rings / The Hobbit had singing in there, but it's not claimed a musical. A Musical, IS a musical. The difference is just how much tragedy, the themes and kind of audience its attracting and their kind of music. Sound of music, Sweeney todd, Moulin Rouge are all musicals, they're just a different style.
Chozon1 mentioned reality different and I agree,There is a point of entertainment, fantasy but not just only that but Inspiration, some hope, the beauty of music which can make a big difference.Spoiler:
So you understand the poverty in 3rd world countries. You understand, women are treated like crap, raped - a lot of prostitution business. Children sold off, I don't know about the value of humanity. There are violent gangs, drugs. If you want to make a musical out of it , be my guest.
Les Miserables is actually a good example of a musical, why ?
Because it holds all the necessary ingredients.
Tragedy - there's civil war, revolution and oppression from the government. There is love, family love, the uphold and struggle of a man, albeit a good man but the Downside is, they didn't wrote it, Hugo did.
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Hey Arctic, I just found a little tidbit about the Les Miserables movie you might like.
Turns out, the actor who played the Bishop, Colm Wilkinson, originally played Jean Valjean in the 10th anniversary production. Really a beautiful cyclical statement.
Turns out, the actor who played the Bishop, Colm Wilkinson, originally played Jean Valjean in the 10th anniversary production. Really a beautiful cyclical statement.
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That's awesome! I wonder how many more of those are in the movie...
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That part I knew, and I just bet there's a swarm of cameos in it.
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I saw it and it blew my miiind.
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Hugh Jackman was awesome. He said he didn't drink water for 3 days before the prison work seen to get the wrinkles on his face. He is always committed to putting a 110% into his roles.
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Finally saw it last night due to Netflix sending the wrong disc, great movie (haven't seen the prior ones)
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Don't bother with the previous ones. They tend to be more true to the novel, and tell the story in a very depressing, boring, painful way.ccgr wrote:Finally saw it last night due to Netflix sending the wrong disc, great movie (haven't seen the prior ones)
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I will still champion the 1998 adaptation, even over this one.
Also, Arctic, what do you think of this?
Warning: Link contains a fair to heavy amount of language, there's even a mild swear word in the url. It's long, but I think it's well worth reading.
Also, Arctic, what do you think of this?
Warning: Link contains a fair to heavy amount of language, there's even a mild swear word in the url. It's long, but I think it's well worth reading.
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I dunno... The guy makes understandable points but I come away from the article feeling like it all boils down to "It didn't like it because it's not the way I'd have done it." Yes, I get that he's trying to analyze it on a technical level which is meant to be objective, but it doesn't seem to me that any art form (films included) MUST follow a particular formula. That kind of thinking is what leads to boring conventionality and at the end of the day, Les Mis was a successful movie and I've never heard of a single movie this guy made.
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Wow, that was difficult to sludge through. I couldn't go on after reading about his cinematography class. If he thought the movie difficult to go through, I gander he never bothered reading through his own reviews.
From what I gleaned, I agree with Arctic. It sounds like a film student with a superiority complex and a stuck caps-lock key.
Here's a more palatable work in defense of Les Mis' cinematography choices.
http://theanalyticalcouchpotato.org/wp/ ... atography/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
From what I gleaned, I agree with Arctic. It sounds like a film student with a superiority complex and a stuck caps-lock key.
Here's a more palatable work in defense of Les Mis' cinematography choices.
http://theanalyticalcouchpotato.org/wp/ ... atography/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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Palatable as in one you agree with. Look, I'm not saying that this version of Les Mis was a bad movie, and I certainly wouldn't go as far as the guy in the review that I posted. However, I was grateful for it in that it provided some means of explanation for why certain sections of the movie made me so uncomfortable, cinematic-wise. I felt the same way about Hooper's bizarre directorial choices in The King's Speech, despite liking the movie.
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