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by Lazarus
Tue Apr 14, 2015 4:39 am
Forum: Spiritual Matters
Topic: New York passes new abortion bill involving poison and third trimester terminations
Replies: 78
Views: 15973

Re: New York passes new abortion bill involving poison and third trimester terminations

It's a good argument, but you're talking to people whose views on abortion are more regressive than Iranian law.
by Lazarus
Mon Apr 13, 2015 7:54 pm
Forum: Spiritual Matters
Topic: New York passes new abortion bill involving poison and third trimester terminations
Replies: 78
Views: 15973

Re: New York passes new abortion bill involving poison and third trimester terminations

"My wife and I are having a baby!"
"Cool, I want to hold the baby!"
"Well, we don't have it yet..."

yeah, word games don't get us anywhere.
by Lazarus
Mon Apr 13, 2015 7:31 pm
Forum: Spiritual Matters
Topic: Indiana governor signs bill allowing businesses to reject gay customers
Replies: 107
Views: 21109

Re: Indiana governor signs bill allowing businesses to reject gay customers

When you distill the debate down to this level, the only thing left to do is agree to disagree, because worldviews are a baseline that generally doesn't change. I would distill the debate down to some people claiming their homophobia is a religious belief and said belief makes them immune to prosec...
by Lazarus
Mon Apr 13, 2015 7:29 pm
Forum: Spiritual Matters
Topic: New York passes new abortion bill involving poison and third trimester terminations
Replies: 78
Views: 15973

Re: New York passes new abortion bill involving poison and third trimester terminations

You know, you call them "children" when they're actually "fetuses". "Children" makes people think of happy little babies, so it's easier to claim that they shouldn't be aborted, or brutally executed - before they've ever tasted food, like mashed carrots or baby peas. Even serial killers get a last m...
by Lazarus
Mon Apr 13, 2015 6:34 pm
Forum: Spiritual Matters
Topic: New York passes new abortion bill involving poison and third trimester terminations
Replies: 78
Views: 15973

Re: New York passes new abortion bill involving poison and third trimester terminations

The unborn don't have rights, much like the undead. Nobody is campaigning to ban head-shots either.
by Lazarus
Mon Apr 13, 2015 5:51 pm
Forum: Spiritual Matters
Topic: New York passes new abortion bill involving poison and third trimester terminations
Replies: 78
Views: 15973

Re: New York passes new abortion bill involving poison and third trimester terminations

LAVA89 wrote:
Lazarus wrote:Who are you referring to?
Well, you were the first to inject it into this conversation, but others have brought it up afterwards.
In this thread? When and where???
by Lazarus
Mon Apr 13, 2015 12:44 pm
Forum: Spiritual Matters
Topic: New York passes new abortion bill involving poison and third trimester terminations
Replies: 78
Views: 15973

Re: New York passes new abortion bill involving poison and third trimester terminations

LAVA89 wrote:Am I the only one who's tired of the race part getting thrown around and feels it has nothing to do with the issue at hand?
Who are you referring to?
by Lazarus
Mon Apr 13, 2015 11:01 am
Forum: Spiritual Matters
Topic: New York passes new abortion bill involving poison and third trimester terminations
Replies: 78
Views: 15973

Re: New York passes new abortion bill involving poison and third trimester terminations

There are enough women on both sides of the issue to make the idea that only one side has strong intelligent women in it incorrect. You make it sound like all women on the anti-abortion side are dimwitted housewives who believe that their only purposes are making babies and working in the kitchen. ...
by Lazarus
Mon Apr 13, 2015 9:02 am
Forum: Spiritual Matters
Topic: Indiana governor signs bill allowing businesses to reject gay customers
Replies: 107
Views: 21109

Re: Indiana governor signs bill allowing businesses to reject gay customers

It kinda muddies the waters because the driver didn't bring his religion beliefs into it, he just claimed the kissing was "distracting". Which is a paper-thin excuse for a cabbie with 17 years of experience. My favorite part was this: "He(the driver) also told the judge that for the last few weeks h...
by Lazarus
Mon Apr 13, 2015 8:55 am
Forum: Spiritual Matters
Topic: New York passes new abortion bill involving poison and third trimester terminations
Replies: 78
Views: 15973

Re: New York passes new abortion bill involving poison and third trimester terminations

It is funny how most(not all) of the politicians in favor of criminalizing abortion are men. I wonder why the majority of women don't want the government taking away their personal autonomy. Oh wait, I forgot. They're not smart enough to realize that abortion is murder so the men have to take charge...
by Lazarus
Mon Apr 13, 2015 6:06 am
Forum: Spiritual Matters
Topic: Christian Man Asks Thirteen Gay Bakeries To Bake Him Pro-Traditional Marriage Cake
Replies: 16
Views: 6209

Re: Christian Man Asks Thirteen Gay Bakeries To Bake Him Pro-Traditional Marriage Cake

Non-Christians: I'm sorry that some Christians are mean and hateful. But lots of us aren't. I'm sorry too, but they get a lot more attention than all the nice ones. It's kinda like how lots of Muslims condemn suicide bombings and terrorist activity but you never really hear about it that often. Law...
by Lazarus
Mon Apr 13, 2015 6:00 am
Forum: Spiritual Matters
Topic: Indiana governor signs bill allowing businesses to reject gay customers
Replies: 107
Views: 21109

Re: Indiana governor signs bill allowing businesses to reject gay customers

So now this happened.... I think Bruce was dead-on, but this looks like a slam-dunk to me too! 1. "rightwingnews.com" This looks to be an unbiased, impartial source of news! 2. The url is literally "pastor-who-asked-gay-bakery-for-a-christian-cake-being-charged-with-a-crime" and yet the article its...
by Lazarus
Mon Apr 13, 2015 5:51 am
Forum: Spiritual Matters
Topic: New York passes new abortion bill involving poison and third trimester terminations
Replies: 78
Views: 15973

Re: New York passes new abortion bill involving poison and third trimester terminations

I don't know what you're trying to say with "Sarcasm =/= satire", but the phrase "willfully obtuse" would be more appropriate in your case. I think they're morally bankrupt, but not because of their race, age or the fact that they were elected into office by their constituents. You were the one who ...
by Lazarus
Sun Apr 12, 2015 5:15 pm
Forum: Spiritual Matters
Topic: New York passes new abortion bill involving poison and third trimester terminations
Replies: 78
Views: 15973

Re: New York passes new abortion bill involving poison and third trimester terminations

Morally bankrupt wasn't what I said, but I totally agree that they are, so your sarcasm was... not sarcastic enough?
by Lazarus
Sat Apr 11, 2015 11:48 pm
Forum: Spiritual Matters
Topic: New York passes new abortion bill involving poison and third trimester terminations
Replies: 78
Views: 15973

Re: New York passes new abortion bill involving poison and third trimester terminations

The graphic language is used to appeal to emotion and override the fact that a bunch of angry white men want to legislate every little detail of how all women manage their wombs and other body parts, while ironically claiming that they want the government to stay out of our lives.

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