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by RoosterOnAStick
Fri Jan 22, 2016 10:31 am
Forum: Debates
Topic: Shall We Discuss the Trinity?
Replies: 57
Views: 11422

Re: Shall We Discuss the Trinity?

As to which starting point is accurate, it all depends on what you want to consider the starting point. :lol: For me, the baptism of Jesus makes it abundantly clear that we're talking about three different entities, so that's where I would come from. A very good point :D Well, if I were to put my o...
by RoosterOnAStick
Fri Jan 22, 2016 10:12 am
Forum: Debates
Topic: Shall We Discuss the Trinity?
Replies: 57
Views: 11422

Re: Shall We Discuss the Trinity?

To be fair when speaking of metaphysical and spiritual things we are trying to describe things that aren't so easily put into words in the first place. Our incomplete perceptions and language may not contain all the tools necessary to fully express these things. This is why I agree with what Lewie k...
by RoosterOnAStick
Thu Jan 21, 2016 1:56 pm
Forum: Spiritual Matters
Topic: a serious misnomer and confusion
Replies: 15
Views: 2712

Re: a serious misnomer and confusion

My understanding of the use of "Father" was always pointing to the fact God made us, hence He is Father. Since there IS only one God everyone accepted God as Father. This is what I feel deep within my being, but I am human after all! Peace! 8) Didn't you even read the post? You have just used the w...
by RoosterOnAStick
Thu Jan 21, 2016 1:47 pm
Forum: Debates
Topic: Shall We Discuss the Trinity?
Replies: 57
Views: 11422

Re: Shall We Discuss the Trinity?

Well, I guess it depends how we define what is simple though. To me, a trinitarian understanding of God is the most intuitive way to read the bible. It doesn't make much sense outside of that context. Obviously I would not expect us to agree on that statement. The reason this is important though is ...
by RoosterOnAStick
Fri Jan 15, 2016 12:54 am
Forum: Debates
Topic: Shall We Discuss the Trinity?
Replies: 57
Views: 11422

Re: Shall We Discuss the Trinity?

I did say at one point I would give something I had been musing about for some time so here it is. It is pretty long though so I am gonna warn you ahead of time. It began recently when I was listening through an audio reading of CS Lewis' The Screwtape Letters, read by John Cleese. The subject of th...
by RoosterOnAStick
Thu Jan 14, 2016 5:22 pm
Forum: Spiritual Matters
Topic: How close are we?
Replies: 9
Views: 1561

Re: How close are we?

One little note I should add so that my previous post is read in the right context... Antichrist (whether an antichrist with a lowercase or capital a) is not to be interpreted strictly or perhaps even primarily in a political sense. An Antichrist can easily be a spiritual leader or revolutionary jus...
by RoosterOnAStick
Thu Jan 14, 2016 5:06 pm
Forum: Spiritual Matters
Topic: How close are we?
Replies: 9
Views: 1561

Re: How close are we?

Well even putting aside differing views on the end times my concern is sort of the overall sentiment in this. It is good to try to have an understanding of the end times but in my mind asking how close we are to the end times (regardless of how we view it) is the wrong question to ask. The only real...
by RoosterOnAStick
Fri Jan 08, 2016 10:10 am
Forum: Spiritual Matters
Topic: 13 surprising Mormon facts
Replies: 34
Views: 6547

Re: 13 surprising Mormon facts

Alright well good to know where I can look up the Mormon perspective. Of course, a full history of the Bible, various traditions that surrounded it, the church councils that codified the canon, and what happened after that over the centuries is a subject all in itself. Now I'm not denying many of th...
by RoosterOnAStick
Wed Jan 06, 2016 6:08 am
Forum: Spiritual Matters
Topic: 13 surprising Mormon facts
Replies: 34
Views: 6547

Re: 13 surprising Mormon facts

Ok cool, I'll check it out then. Probably post stuff on that thread regarding the Trinity if I have anything worthwhile to add. It is to me a key issue as I consider this a core doctrine of the faith, but I have been kind of musing on more of the nature of it and why God would be a Trinity in the fi...
by RoosterOnAStick
Tue Jan 05, 2016 10:30 pm
Forum: Spiritual Matters
Topic: 13 surprising Mormon facts
Replies: 34
Views: 6547

Re: 13 surprising Mormon facts

Well I got two questions to ask then: 1) How does the Mormon Church understand things like the Trinity? I'm sure this has been answered somewhere else, but remind me again cause it seems like Trinitarian Christians understand the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit differently than Mormons do. What are the...
by RoosterOnAStick
Mon Jan 04, 2016 2:27 pm
Forum: Spiritual Matters
Topic: When, if Ever, is it Okay to Judge Someone's Faith?
Replies: 17
Views: 2950

Re: When, if Ever, is it Okay to Judge Someone's Faith?

Also Dirk, I will say this... While I do appreciate the importance you place on doctrinal discernment and ensuring that the core tenets of the faith as defined by the ancient creeds of the Church are taught properly (as they more or less are the definition of what the Christian faith is and is not),...
by RoosterOnAStick
Mon Jan 04, 2016 1:11 pm
Forum: Spiritual Matters
Topic: The Two Scariest Lies in Our World Right Now
Replies: 6
Views: 2015

Re: The Two Scariest Lies in Our World Right Now

If you don't mind me asking Dirk, before I respond any further what denomination/theological background are you coming from? I'm having a hard time figuring that out.
by RoosterOnAStick
Mon Jan 04, 2016 9:30 am
Forum: Spiritual Matters
Topic: When, if Ever, is it Okay to Judge Someone's Faith?
Replies: 17
Views: 2950

Re: When, if Ever, is it Okay to Judge Someone's Faith?

Yes, I would like to say that there are ways to say what you said my good man and ways not to say it. Please take what I am about to say as I intend this, as constructive criticism. The caps are not necessary, and yes while I have used them at times to put emphasis on something specific, an entire p...
by RoosterOnAStick
Thu Dec 10, 2015 6:21 pm
Forum: Spiritual Matters
Topic: Magic?
Replies: 14
Views: 2688

Re: Magic?

I think there is another aspect and it was touched on by Nedla about the supernatural interacting with our world. I agree with that premise but there is a lot more that I don't think a lot of us understand. Speaking of C.S. Lewis he highlights this problem of not knowing what we are doing regarding ...
by RoosterOnAStick
Tue Dec 01, 2015 7:56 pm
Forum: Spiritual Matters
Topic: People Leaving the LDS Over New Baptism Rules
Replies: 32
Views: 6009

Re: People Leaving the LDS Over New Baptism Rules

Here is the entirety of 2 Peter Chapter 1 for additional context Also, here is Chapter 2 of it for additional context Both are taken from the ESV but the site has other English translations as well. Seems to me like those three verses are part of a much different point that Peter is trying to make ...

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