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by Truthseeker
Fri Jan 09, 2015 10:09 pm
Forum: Spiritual Matters
Topic: So my non-believer friends, would you go to a Unitarian church service?
Replies: 5
Views: 2028

Re: So my non-believer friends, would you go to a Unitarian church service?

I attended unitarian church two or three times when I was a teenager. It was not for me. One of the youth services focused on the Force. Yes, I mean that Force. But I don't know if I agree with Arch that Fundamentalism deserves more sympathy just because they are wrong WITH CONVICTION. Both ideologi...
by Truthseeker
Tue Oct 14, 2014 6:07 pm
Forum: Debates
Topic: Organized Religion: The Source of Evil?
Replies: 42
Views: 8155

Re: Organized Religion: The Source of Evil?

I definitely agree that we can't know since we can't perform a laboratory experiment on history where the only variable is the existence of religion.
by Truthseeker
Tue Oct 14, 2014 4:50 pm
Forum: Debates
Topic: Organized Religion: The Source of Evil?
Replies: 42
Views: 8155

Re: Organized Religion: The Source of Evil?

What are the source(s) of evil? Well, I don't think it boils down to any easy list. Any bad action you can think of has its own circumstances and explanations. I work in a court, so I probably get exposed to more of the day-to-day transgressions than perhaps many people reading these posts, and I ca...
by Truthseeker
Thu Oct 09, 2014 5:10 pm
Forum: Debates
Topic: Organized Religion: The Source of Evil?
Replies: 42
Views: 8155

Re: Organized Religion: The Source of Evil?

I don't think any one thing is THE source of evil. But I do think religious beliefs obviously motivate people to do evil things. For instance, I think the labor market for suicide bombers would plummet without the belief in the afterlife. I'll also concede that religion has motivated some people to ...
by Truthseeker
Mon Sep 15, 2014 9:00 pm
Forum: Debates
Topic: How can we know there is a God?
Replies: 78
Views: 18896

Re: How can we know there is a God?

I love the wit and eloquence with which you write, Selderane. I said nothing presuming that there is definitely life in the universe besides on Earth, so I do not agree that I am filling in gaps in knowledge with my personal wishes. I don't know what's out in the great unknown. And I don't know abou...
by Truthseeker
Mon Sep 15, 2014 5:35 pm
Forum: Debates
Topic: How can we know there is a God?
Replies: 78
Views: 18896

Re: How can we know there is a God?

Thanks for sharing that. A lot of that was cearly extremely personal, and since personal stuff is a little out of my comfort zone I'll just let you know that I read it and appreciate it and I'll leave it at that. Regarding your more general points, the first being that the existence of a divine crea...
by Truthseeker
Fri Sep 12, 2014 9:06 pm
Forum: Debates
Topic: How can we know there is a God?
Replies: 78
Views: 18896

Re: How can we know there is a God?

Well first of all I regret that the darkness comment gave you uncharitable feelings. There's a balancing act between expressing one's self with force and not saying things that are obsticals to understanding, and I don't always get it right. Yet...darkness is what it looks like to me when an ideolog...
by Truthseeker
Fri Sep 12, 2014 5:23 pm
Forum: Debates
Topic: How can we know there is a God?
Replies: 78
Views: 18896

Re: How can we know there is a God?

Selderane, I'm happy to make it clear that I am not asking from a Christian perspective. And from that more critical perspective, I still think your answer isn't much of an answer because most of your points presuppose that Christianity is a true religion when my question is why would anyone arive a...
by Truthseeker
Wed Sep 10, 2014 3:05 pm
Forum: Debates
Topic: How can we know there is a God?
Replies: 78
Views: 18896

Re: How can we know there is a God?

I feel like the point of my question may not have gotten across. I was asking how anyone can honestly think THEIR communication with the divine is genuine when they know full well that other people are having talks with other gods and those talks seem just as real to them. If the answer is that the ...
by Truthseeker
Tue Sep 09, 2014 5:07 pm
Forum: Debates
Topic: How can we know there is a God?
Replies: 78
Views: 18896

Re: How can we know there is a God?

I have not posted for a while, but I was looking for a fascinating discussion and I knew I could find it here. I wont even try to participate in the conversation regarding math and the big bang. I have been familiar with the arguments in the OP for years and, frankly, they are clearly trivial. They ...
by Truthseeker
Tue Feb 19, 2013 11:02 pm
Forum: Spiritual Matters
Topic: Debates subforum
Replies: 15
Views: 3140

Re: Debates subforum

I don't mind a separate forum for debates in principle. One thing to keep in mind is that debates sometimes evolve naturally out of discussions that were not originally debates. Someone posts something, someone else has a different perspective on it, and then the two debate their points of view. If ...
by Truthseeker
Thu Feb 14, 2013 12:33 am
Forum: Spiritual Matters
Topic: Teen sues parents for trying to force her to abort
Replies: 10
Views: 1972

Re: Teen sues parents for trying to force her to abort

It's great that she's standing up for herself, but to sue your parents? That's a bit too far in my opinion. Aren't there other options? From the context of the article it does not seem like the daughter is seeking money damages. It sounds like the only thing she is seeking is a legal order from a j...
by Truthseeker
Mon Feb 11, 2013 8:24 am
Forum: Spiritual Matters
Topic: Dating
Replies: 30
Views: 6010

Re: Dating

by Truthseeker
Sun Feb 10, 2013 2:16 am
Forum: Spiritual Matters
Topic: Dating
Replies: 30
Views: 6010

Re: Dating

And just do be the random wolf in this sheep's pen.... You're young. Go out, have what fun you want, consequences be darned. Just remember it's all math and you should be hoping like heck you don't multiply. I disagree with this, but probably not for the same reasons as some others. People should h...
by Truthseeker
Sun Jan 27, 2013 3:27 am
Forum: Spiritual Matters
Topic: Keep the Merry, Dump the Myth billboard
Replies: 69
Views: 9016

Re: Keep the Merry, Dump the Myth billboard

And incidentally, rights are only inalienable as far as they're granted by a higher source than your Government. Jefferson said that directly in the Declaration of Independence. It's one of the reasons morality is tied to rights. If "rights" are granted to you by a human, mortal government, then th...

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