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Posted: Sun Jan 07, 2007 8:32 am
by a_sigint_ninja
I don't really talk with my parents. It invariably ends in me being grounded or yelled at. :?

Psalm 6. It seems that with many of these Psalms, he starts out pleading, desperate, and by the end he's praising God. And then the same thing happens in the next one. I'm not sure if I should consider that reassuring or not.

Verses 3 and 5 stood out to me, as well. With 3 I can understand why, but I'm not sure why 5 did.

Oh, and the line in verse 2 about "Be merciful to me, LORD," He's asking for mercy, not justice.

Which brings me to one of my favorite quotes, perhaps I've mentioned it before:

"I used to think it was a terrible thing that life was so unfair. Then I thought, 'what if life *were* fair, and all of the terrible things that happen to us came because we really deserved them?' Now I take great comfort in the general unfairness and hostility of the universe."

Marcus Cole, Babylon 5

Posted: Sun Jan 07, 2007 8:40 am
by CountKrazy
a_sigint_ninja wrote:I don't really talk with my parents. It invariably ends in me being grounded or yelled at.
Oh wow... That's awful... Well, I'll pray that your relationship gets better.

It might be good to just tell them they do that. And if they yell at you if you do that, at least it'll give them something to think about. Or pray about. All I know is that when I tell my parents about something that they are doing that isn't exactly kind, they normally stop.

Posted: Sun Jan 07, 2007 8:42 am
by Kendrik
That's an awesome quote. The idea is much older than Babylon 5, but still a great quote. Verse 5 is interesting. Interesting though, David is asking about "who will give You thanks?" I think is possible that he means, "if my enemies kill me, how will I be able to continue seeking you?" For what it's worth, I would consider the recurring theme to be a good thing. David never gives up, and always finds God to be good. He just has a lot of downtime (in the emotional sense).

I'm sorry to hear about the trouble with your parents. I would recommend trying to improve that relationship (even if that means a whole lot of beating around the bush) because, historically, parents are among the greatest assets God gives to youth. Still, I know that problems with parents are a reality. But if you parents don't seem to be helping you in your troubles, find someone (like a youth pastor) who can help you.

It seems I've not identified my gender. Well, I'm a guy. At least, I'm pretty sure that I'm a guy. Thanks again for the compliments. But let's not make this about me, ok?

Seriously, God tends to break down those who He has great plans for. Keep up the good fight and God will reward you in opportunities. Run the race with your eyes fixed steadfast on the prize, which is Christ in His glory and inheritance. Know God loves you, and that there are people who genuinely care for you, even if they don't show it often.

Posted: Sun Jan 07, 2007 8:43 am
by a_sigint_ninja
Sounds like you have pretty good parents. Mine, they're not evil or anything, they just seem to want me to be someone I'm not, and that's never going to happen. So they don't react well to anything that could ruin their ideal.

Posted: Sun Jan 07, 2007 8:50 am
by Kendrik
That's terrible.

Would you say that they are trying to make you into something detestable, or something that you don't consider to be "you"? There is some room for the benefit of the doubt that your parents mean well and want what they think is best for you. Do you ever calmly talk to them about what it is you want to become, and how it is that fits with what they want? Perhaps even asking, in a calm, tactful way, what it is they want you to be, so you can know how to properly please them.

Posted: Sun Jan 07, 2007 8:57 am
by a_sigint_ninja
My mother wants me to get married, have kids, and spend the rest of my life as a housewife. Not that there's anything wrong with it, and she certainly enjoys it, but it doesn't seem to fit with any of my capabilities, and I feel like God's leading me in a different direction.

And my mom tends to either panic, or act like I hate her because I'm not planning on doing the same thing as her with my life. The discussions don't go calmly very long.

Posted: Sun Jan 07, 2007 9:17 am
by Kendrik
Ok, first off, allow me to point out that this is a public forum and that you don't know me or anybody else here, so I would definitely recommend being careful of what personal information you give out.

Beyond that, if God's not leading you towards being a full-time housewife, then that's all there is to it. All the same, domestic skills are a great asset (for guys just as much as gals), and if your mom wants you to gain those skills, why not go with it? Especially if you don't think you possess those abilities now. Believe me, being able to do anything is worth the effort. Like Paul says, "I've become all things to all people." Become everything you have. Maybe you don't think God has "housewife" in mind for you, but having those skills is not without merit.

By the way, has your mother explicitly stated all of this?

Playing the benefit of the doubt here, maybe your mother just wants to feel like she's raising you well. If she's a housewife, and if that's where the majorities of her skills lie, then that's what she has available to teach you. If you don't appear to want to learn what she has to teach, then should could feel like she isn't raising you well. To the best of your abilities, I would recommend trying to please your parents as much as possible, all the while trying to relate to them that you think God has something different in mind for you.

Harmony is underrated. Please don't misunderstand my intent here, but the Bible says to "honor your father and your mother." And, perhaps the key thing that I would like to relay here, "This is the first commandment with a promise." Trying to please your parents will do well for you, even if you don't think that they are always right. Again, don't think that I'm trying to "take their side," as I'm not trying to take anybody's side. Wait, I am taking a side, the side that tries to get everyone else on the same side so that everyone can give their utmost for the Highest.

Posted: Sun Jan 07, 2007 9:22 am
by a_sigint_ninja
Yes, she has stated so.

And you're right, I do need to work on honoring them-I tend to have difficulty with it. But right now, I think I need some sleep. Thanks.

Posted: Sun Jan 07, 2007 9:44 am
by Kendrik
I'm sorry to hear that it sounds like your mother is not open to the idea that God has something different set out for you. In time that may change. Especially if you redouble your efforts to show her that she is important to you, and ask that she meet you halfway.

In other words, make yourself open to the possibility that you may end up a full-time housewife, (even if you perceive that as unlikely) and learn the skills associated with such. The benefit of this alone is two-fold, no, three-fold: first, you will gain new skills that are helpful in day to day living; second, you will (ideally) improve your relationship with your mother; third, God has a way of teachings lessons within lessons (ie, while learning a new skill, God may give you a lesson in patience or grace).

Then, ask your mother to become open to the idea that God may not have it in mind for you to follow in her shoes, and to help you expand your skills and opportunities wherever it is you feel God is leading you. As time passes, this could result in your mother seeing something in your future even bigger or better than you had previously thought when she realizes what you're capable of and sees some of the personality traits (even underdeveloped ones) that you may not even notice that can be effective beyond the domestic sector.


For those of you just tuning in. Here's some of the key pieces of what you missed. First and foremost: life has a lot of trouble between start and finish, but God loves you more than you can realize and will always be there for you. Beyond that, when life gets you down, become proactive: lift other people up! This will in turn make you feel better about yourself. That's not why you should lift other people up, but it's worth knowing that helping others will help you. And in regards to helping others, the relationships you have with your friends and family are of utmost importance. Do whatever you can to keep those relationships at their peak potential. Specifically among relationship, do what you can (even when it's difficult) to get along with your parents (even if you're 40) and honor them because "this is the first commandment with a promise." Your parents (again, regardless of age) have likely gone through whatever you are going through and can help you through hard times. Sometimes that relationship is a challenging one, but doing what you can to improve circumstances will be in your best interest in the long run.

And finally. Pray and seek God. He is the one that holds the past, present, and future. He is the one that will never leave nor forsake you. He is the one that is Great and Mighty, and yet gracious and loving: so much so that He died the death of a criminal so that you can realize how deep His love runs. "In all your ways acknowledge Him, and He will make your paths straight."

Xian Lee (who has made known that he is a guy) over and out.

Posted: Sun Jan 07, 2007 1:25 pm
by Lazarus
Yeah, a lot of parents seem to want their kids to be a certain thing(not thing - I mean have a certain place in life).
My Dad keeps pushing me to be an accountant or something( :roll: ) - even has me working down at the office.

Unfortunately a lot of parents turn a deaf ear to their kids when it comes to things like this.

IMO - that's what Disownment laws were created for...

Heads off to the office to pay bills... *sigh*

Posted: Sun Jan 07, 2007 6:20 pm
by ChickenSoup
Wow... Xian, you would make a good counselor or something.

Posted: Sun Jan 07, 2007 8:27 pm
by a_sigint_ninja
Very true, C$. Hey, if he can help me.... :wink:

Posted: Sun Jan 07, 2007 8:29 pm
by ChickenSoup
It's too awkward for me to make a comment on that.

Posted: Sun Jan 07, 2007 8:31 pm
by a_sigint_ninja
Ok.

Posted: Sun Jan 07, 2007 8:57 pm
by Lazarus
a_sigint_ninja wrote:Very true, C$. Hey, if he can help me.... :wink:
...he can help anybody, right? :wink: