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I'm ashamed of myself for not knowing this.

Postby ArcticFox » Tue Oct 21, 2014 7:30 pm

Gary Gygax, creator of Dungeons & Dragons, was a Christian
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Re: I'm ashamed of myself for not knowing this.

Postby Deepfreeze32 » Tue Oct 21, 2014 7:33 pm

So we can finally lay the myth that Dungeons & Dragons is satanic to rest, right? :P

Maybe someone should have told Jack Chick this...but then again, we wouldn't have the awesome MST3k commentary on it.

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Re: I'm ashamed of myself for not knowing this.

Postby ArcticFox » Tue Oct 21, 2014 7:33 pm

Maybe someone should have told Jack Chick this...but then again, we wouldn't have the awesome MST3k commentary on it.
And the equally awesome movie adaptation.
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Re: I'm ashamed of myself for not knowing this.

Postby ArchAngel » Wed Oct 22, 2014 3:09 am

He actually kept his faith private because he didn't want to hurt the reputation of Christianity because of the "moral panic" over D&D. (I'm citing Wikipedia which is citing something else.)

That's a real shame.

And dat movie adaptation. Love it!
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Re: I'm ashamed of myself for not knowing this.

Postby Sstavix » Wed Oct 22, 2014 4:27 am

I did know that.

(Of course I knew that. It's "obscure historical game trivia." Ask me a question about something that's relevant and I'll have no clue....)

If I recall correctly, his faith is also why his game universe tended to have a vaguely Tolkienesque feel to it. Just as Tolkien had subtle influences of his faith in "The Lord of the Rings," the same goes for Gygax's works (especially with emphasis on the hero's journey and success against overwhelming evil int he face of insurmountable odds). Of course, being a role-playing game and subject to innumerable house rules, things have changed a lot with D&D (and any tabletop RPG, really) since then.
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Re: I'm ashamed of myself for not knowing this.

Postby ArcticFox » Wed Oct 22, 2014 1:50 pm

He actually kept his faith private because he didn't want to hurt the reputation of Christianity because of the "moral panic" over D&D. (I'm citing Wikipedia which is citing something else.)

That's a real shame.
It is a real shame, because that's one of the most facepalm inducing behaviors of some Christians. That ranks with book burners and people who ignore Halloween because they think such things will send them to Hell.

I often say that science and religion are separate tools in life's toolbox, but reason is something that should be common to both, and people who are so paranoid that a man had to hide his faith to help them save face are part of the problem, not the solution.
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Re: I'm ashamed of myself for not knowing this.

Postby ArchAngel » Wed Oct 22, 2014 10:47 pm

A pretty fun anecdote: http://snapjudgment.org/chasing-dragon" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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Re: I'm ashamed of myself for not knowing this.

Postby ArcticFox » Wed Oct 22, 2014 11:46 pm

Hilarious!

Actually, that was a lot like listening to a Greaseman bit.
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Re: I'm ashamed of myself for not knowing this.

Postby ccgr » Fri Oct 24, 2014 6:25 pm

w00t Epic DnD Games in Heaven!

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Re: I'm ashamed of myself for not knowing this.

Postby ArchAngel » Fri Oct 24, 2014 9:13 pm

Awww, darn. I'm gonna miss out on that.
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Re: I'm ashamed of myself for not knowing this.

Postby ArcticFox » Sat Oct 25, 2014 1:54 pm

You don't have to.
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Re: I'm ashamed of myself for not knowing this.

Postby Orodrist » Sat Oct 25, 2014 10:48 pm

Don't worry Arch, when you get close to dyin I can run over and let you fight me to the death, get you into Valhalla. We're chill like that.
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Re: I'm ashamed of myself for not knowing this.

Postby ArchAngel » Sun Oct 26, 2014 2:35 am

You got a deal! Mead from the skulls of our enemies!
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